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Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#51
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/13/us/texas-election-ballot-drop... One ballot box per county in some counties means waiting hours in line for that too.

You can also mail them in. That whole thing was a fake controversy.

I suspect you and I define the words “fake” and “controversy” quite differently.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#52
post #2

It's both amazing and terrible. Amazing to see people standing up for their rights and voting in the face of adversity, these voters deserve praise and are role models for the country. Terrible because it means that they are in corrupt districts that are not properly facilitating democracy. Worthy of a federal corruption investigation potentially resulting in criminal charges. Though I am very glad people are willing…

>Worthy of a federal corruption investigation potentially resulting in criminal charges.

Except these voter suppression tactics are currently being applauded and encouraged at the federal level, which is itself engaging in similar tactics.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#53

Why would you wait in line 11 hours to vote when you can drop off your ballot at a ballot box?

In Texas, where I live, the Republican Governor ordered counties to remove all but one box in each county.

In California, the Republican party setup unofficial drop boxes that aren't legal.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#54
post #26

Hanlon's razor applies here. Many people here and elsewhere on the net are quick to point out corruption or voter suppression, but I think a more realistic explanation is plain old incompetence from the people running these places.

One party as a platform is always trying to make it more difficult to vote in ways that mostly affect people that tend to vote for the other party. There's no reason to pretend it's incompetence when there's clear evidence of voter suppression

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#55

So, these lines are not representative of an actual election day. Actual election day is November 3, 2020. Some states are in early voting right now [0]. That typically means that there's a very limited number of polling stations open. For instance, in Pinellas County, FL there's only 5 early voting locations, compared to 301 poll locations during election day. That's a 60x discrepancy! This is for 713,000 registered…

Are you saying that this is fine because everyone knows early voting means limited number of polling stations?

You also cherry-picked a specific county with an extreme difference. Are they all 60x difference?

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#56
The only long line to vote (and it wasn't anything like the lines in the article, we're talking maybe 25 people) I've ever seen was the one time I voted in a jurisdiction with electronic voting machines.

Otherwise they all had paper ballots and it's never been more than (say) 5 people in line.

Some of these places with the long lines (and clunky voting machines for that matter) are places with a history of voter suppression and I suspect that's the real reason they see these lines year after year and do nothing.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#57

I've never voted for the POTUS and I expect I never will. From my POV I don't really care who wins but I think my preference leans to Trump. That has mostly to do with the Democrats being overly populistic about all the concerns, without offering any solutions. If you push through the endless barrage of misinformation from both sides, it does seem that the conservatives have a better understanding on how to progress…

It's hilarious how so many on the far-right label themselves as centrists and then blame the left on "forcing" them to vote right.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because where they do exist, it's really hard to tell if that ballot box is real. Because one political party has decided to install fake ballot boxes.

Source?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/us/politics/california-go...

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#59
post #4

In Australia we have two things the US system desperately needs: mandatory voting and preferential voting. Preferential voting allows you to vote for a third party without wasting your vote. The standard argument against mandatory voting is people not wanting the uninformed to vote (trust me, they're voting) and the usual US predilection against that infringing "freedom". I was sympathetic to this until I saw the US…

We don't have either of those things in the UK and I've never had to queue to vote - the whole process only takes a couple of minutes.

In Ireland we don't have mandatory voting but we still provision polling stations to handle the possibility of all voters actually voting.

The result is when I lived in a high turnout area, I once had to queue 10 minutes to vote when I had to do it during lunch time, and now I live in a low turnout area 10 minutes is the time from leaving my house to being back having voted in between.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#60
post #20
post #2

It's both amazing and terrible. Amazing to see people standing up for their rights and voting in the face of adversity, these voters deserve praise and are role models for the country. Terrible because it means that they are in corrupt districts that are not properly facilitating democracy. Worthy of a federal corruption investigation potentially resulting in criminal charges. Though I am very glad people are willing…

With all her flaws, India's elections and its election commission does a stellar job. Just look at the stats for 2019 elections [1] (copying few of them): 1.035 million: The total number of polling booths across India. 2: The maximum distance in kilometres from any given voter’s house to he nearest polling booth 3.96 million: Number of electronic voting machines (EVMs) in use this election 1.7 million: Paper trail or…

EVMs have always had vulnerabilities and should not be trusted. They are forbidden in Germany.

https://indiaevm.org/

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