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World reaction to long queues of voters in US

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Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#21
This article is an incredibly misleading, fake positive framing of what is in reality a rapidly failing democratic system. An 11-hour wait to vote is absolutely prohibitive to many of the people who most need change, on top of being terrible for everyone else; not that that is anything new for the US. It's basically a poll tax, which is one of the most regressively anti-democratic tools, but applied unevenly by location. There is not close to a technical need for this, even if we used completely low-tech voting and had all the necessary COVID-19 safety measures. As Glenn Greenwald tweeted, "Few things function efficiently in Brazil. And yet -- in a country just a little smaller & way poorer than the US -- elections work smoothly. Held on a Sunday, mandatory voting, automatic registration at 16, polls open at 7am, close at 5pm, all votes reliably counted by 8:30 pm."

The article is the election version of "feel-good" stories about people who work into their late 80s or 90s in low-paying jobs and are given some token gift like a car by their boss, in response for years and years of life stolen from them. Infuriating.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#23

The lack of voting booths does seem a bit silly, in the UK during elections there is usually voting booths in pretty much every church, school and town hall so you'd struggle to live more than a mile away from one. I once got called a "god botherer" by some kid after leaving to vote in a church, that was a bit bizarre.

Its not silly, its by design to disenfranchise voting, which benefits one party in particular.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#27

Why would you wait in line 11 hours to vote when you can drop off your ballot at a ballot box?

Because where they do exist, it's really hard to tell if that ballot box is real.

Because one political party has decided to install fake ballot boxes.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#28
post #4

In Australia we have two things the US system desperately needs: mandatory voting and preferential voting. Preferential voting allows you to vote for a third party without wasting your vote. The standard argument against mandatory voting is people not wanting the uninformed to vote (trust me, they're voting) and the usual US predilection against that infringing "freedom". I was sympathetic to this until I saw the US…

In the US, one can vote for any party (preferential voting). There are other parties in America but you seldom hear about them. Two examples are the Green Party and the Libertarian party.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#29
Are these fair statements to make? Most counties don't set up infrastructure for early voting at the same capacity as they do for election day voting. This level of early voting turnout is unprecedented right? Of course people shouldn't have to wait in line to vote and it's great that these people are but I think people abroad are not getting the full picture.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#30

I've never voted for the POTUS and I expect I never will. From my POV I don't really care who wins but I think my preference leans to Trump. That has mostly to do with the Democrats being overly populistic about all the concerns, without offering any solutions. If you push through the endless barrage of misinformation from both sides, it does seem that the conservatives have a better understanding on how to progress…

What does this have to do with long lines?
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