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World reaction to long queues of voters in US

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Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#11
The lack of voting booths does seem a bit silly, in the UK during elections there is usually voting booths in pretty much every church, school and town hall so you'd struggle to live more than a mile away from one.

I once got called a "god botherer" by some kid after leaving to vote in a church, that was a bit bizarre.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

#12

I think the most worrying aspect is an emerging strain of political thought in the US that USA is merely a republic but not a democracy. I find it quite shocking that it has gained a great deal of acceptance. edit : typo

Depending on how such things are defined, it's absolutely the case, and that is how the system was designed.

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post #4

In Australia we have two things the US system desperately needs: mandatory voting and preferential voting. Preferential voting allows you to vote for a third party without wasting your vote. The standard argument against mandatory voting is people not wanting the uninformed to vote (trust me, they're voting) and the usual US predilection against that infringing "freedom". I was sympathetic to this until I saw the US…

Many people would love to see literally all of these reforms. You correctly identified the problem, though:

> If you think one party doesn't make it harder to vote in areas where they have a disadvantage you're crazy.

Difficult to enact meaningful reform when the people in power have an existential need to prevent it.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

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post #4

In Australia we have two things the US system desperately needs: mandatory voting and preferential voting. Preferential voting allows you to vote for a third party without wasting your vote. The standard argument against mandatory voting is people not wanting the uninformed to vote (trust me, they're voting) and the usual US predilection against that infringing "freedom". I was sympathetic to this until I saw the US…

We don't have either of those things in the UK and I've never had to queue to vote - the whole process only takes a couple of minutes.

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The people behind this would tell you it's a "feature": by making it incredibly undesirable for people in densely-populated areas to vote (which almost universally lean Democratic), you ensure that only the "right" people are able to vote.

I eyeballed a few people making that very same argument right here on HN but draped in the typical and disgusting line about “personal responsibility” when someone was lamenting how difficult some states are making it to even get registered.

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post #2

It's both amazing and terrible. Amazing to see people standing up for their rights and voting in the face of adversity, these voters deserve praise and are role models for the country. Terrible because it means that they are in corrupt districts that are not properly facilitating democracy. Worthy of a federal corruption investigation potentially resulting in criminal charges. Though I am very glad people are willing…

This is very much a "We've investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong" situation.

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Voter suppression is very real and it is very sad. Those in power say they are in power by a majority but that's false. They aren't. Senators in majority represent minority of voters. A President is in the White House who received less votes than the challenger. This so called majority make laws and claims they can do so because they represent the majority of voices in this country, that is completely false.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

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So, these lines are not representative of an actual election day. Actual election day is November 3, 2020.

Some states are in early voting right now [0]. That typically means that there's a very limited number of polling stations open. For instance, in Pinellas County, FL there's only 5 early voting locations, compared to 301 poll locations during election day. That's a 60x discrepancy! This is for 713,000 registered voters. Pinellas county early voting also doesn't start until next Monday, October 19.

I think there was likely not much thought put into the number of early voting locations. It's always been viewed as a low-budget, customer-friendly alternative to voting on election day. That probably should have been re-evaluated given the pandemic and the likelihood of greater numbers of early voters.

And by far, the biggest problem is that election day is always on a Tuesday and is not a national holiday. IMO this would be the best change to make first, to enable more people to be available for voting.

[0] The availability and dates of early voting are determined at a state level.

Re: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

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post #2

It's both amazing and terrible. Amazing to see people standing up for their rights and voting in the face of adversity, these voters deserve praise and are role models for the country. Terrible because it means that they are in corrupt districts that are not properly facilitating democracy. Worthy of a federal corruption investigation potentially resulting in criminal charges. Though I am very glad people are willing…

With all her flaws, India's elections and its election commission does a stellar job.

Just look at the stats for 2019 elections [1] (copying few of them):

1.035 million: The total number of polling booths across India.

2: The maximum distance in kilometres from any given voter’s house to he nearest polling booth

3.96 million: Number of electronic voting machines (EVMs) in use this election

1.7 million: Paper trail or voter-verifiable paper audit trail machines. It is a documentary record of the voter having exercised his franchise

11 million: Election personnel being deployed to conduct polls

15,256: Height of the world’s highest polling station, in Tashigang, Himachal Pradesh, in feet

35: Kilometres an election team travels just so the only resident of the remote Gir National Forest in Gujarat, where Asiatic lions outnumber humans, can vote. The temple priest gets his own polling station, complete with an EVM

[1] https://qz.com/india/1591214/indian-election-2019s-voters-po...

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