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FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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What if they were promoting a company that funds misleading nutrition research to fool people into thinking sugar is less harmful, leading to countless early deaths and diabetes? What about a company that's the largest plastic polluter in the world, that also lobbies to kill regulation to reduce plastic pollution? It's hard to know the full extent of the harm microplastics cause the ecosystem, but it's unlikely to be…

> How far do you have to drive to find a supermarket that doesn't sell Coca-Cola? Sounds like you've identified the key difference on your own? Spotify can be avoided. Groceries largely cannot. (There's also a difference in revenue model. You can't subscribe to Spotify without part of that money going to Rogan. You can skip Coca-Cola products at the grocery store and ensure the companies you don't like see $0 from yo…

> You can't subscribe to Spotify without part of that money going to Rogan.

Can't you? Rogan's compensation isn't based on Spotify's total profits, and if you don't listen to him, you won't be contributing to his audience size either, and Spotify will be able to see that in their metrics. If tomorrow Spotify gains 100 million new users, that then never listen to a single Rogan episode, how would that increase Rogan's compensation?

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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It's a little surprising to me that you'd expect better customer support from a service with >248 million[1] monthly active users. Having worked for/with departments like this, they have to heavily optimise for their response rate, and use as many macros to respond as possible, which's probably your case as I'd assume that many customers contacted them with the same question. By all means, always speak with your wall…

Most of the time I initiate contact with Amazon customer service, I seem to get a custom response. When pushy, I have gotten excellent custom responses. I expect Amazon does far more revenue/customer, though.

Your mileage may vary - I've got plenty of Amazon support staff blatantly telling me I've got no consumer rights (both national and EU) "because Amazon rules", no matter how high you try to escalate it.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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> How far do you have to drive to find a supermarket that doesn't sell Coca-Cola? Sounds like you've identified the key difference on your own? Spotify can be avoided. Groceries largely cannot. (There's also a difference in revenue model. You can't subscribe to Spotify without part of that money going to Rogan. You can skip Coca-Cola products at the grocery store and ensure the companies you don't like see $0 from yo…

> You can't subscribe to Spotify without part of that money going to Rogan. Can't you? Rogan's compensation isn't based on Spotify's total profits, and if you don't listen to him, you won't be contributing to his audience size either, and Spotify will be able to see that in their metrics. If tomorrow Spotify gains 100 million new users, that then never listen to a single Rogan episode, how would that increase Rogan's…

Are you genuinely unable to see the difference between the two revenue models? I'm really not all that interested in absurd hypotheticals.

If I buy a Coke at my grocery store, Coke's getting some of that money. If I buy a Pepsi, Coke gets none of that. I can boycott specific companies while still buying groceries, and again, opting out of food is an issue.

If Rogan were an optional premium paid add-on channel on Spotify, the two would be far more comparable.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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What's lackluster about Spotify on iOS? I use Spotify on my iPad, my Android phone, and my Windows desktop and they all work pretty well. > especially in terms of their coverage? If you are a typical user with typical tastes, they are all more or less the same. If there's something in particular you want - like lossless compression or being able to upload your own music or Grateful Dead concerts - mention it and peop…

Spotify for Apple Watch is still basically a remote for Spotify on iOS, presumably due to some contracts between Spotify and Samsung. So although Spotify could technically implement a standalone Apple Watch App since at least WatchOS 6 (released over a year ago now), they haven’t, which means you always need to carry your Phone with you. Their support Forum is full of complaints about this, with no proper reaction or…

If you're technically proficient you can just compile this [1] and run this [2] on GCE.

I did it yesterday, works great! Offline downloading and playback of Spotify playlists on the Apple Watch, without being tethered to an iPhone.

[1] https://github.com/rafaelmaeuer/open-apollo

[2] https://github.com/lgruen/open-apollo-server

Spotify is BTW developing a proper watch app, it's in beta now:

https://9to5mac.com/2020/09/17/spotify-finally-testing-apple...

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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... why ? Isn't Joe Rogan pro Bernie as an example ?

Unfortunately the longer time passes, Rogan is pro and against and in between on everything. He's been much more receptive to right leaning perspectives and more critical to extreme left, but also much less critical to the extreme right and much less tolerant of left leaning. Its been incredibly disappointing that he has gotten so out of touch with the style and approach that gained him his podcast prestige.

> He's been much more receptive to right leaning perspectives and more critical to extreme left, but also much less critical to the extreme right and much less tolerant of left leaning.

So your argument is basically "this person is somewhere else on the political spectrum than I am, therefore he must be cancelled from Spotify"?

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Except that there is nothing wrong with Joe Rogan. Not liking someone (or one of their guests) is a really terrible and irrational reason to not use an entire platform.

Feeling that a platform invests in or promotes dangerous or harmful content is a totally valid reason to want to use that platform less, or to stop giving them money. Really super strange that you don’t immediately see that.

Please show me where Rogan promotes "dangerous or harmful content". Also show how mere information can be harmful. Reading "Mein Kampf" won't turn me into a Nazi, but it might make me understand Nazism better.

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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You can get a pretty good csv dump of your play music profile through Google's general data export tool. Their migration to YouTube music is a good opportunity to see what else is out there. I'm leaning towards prime music, since they're a buck cheaper if you have prime (who doesn't?)

I dumped mine due to the impending shutdown. I only had a quick look, but the data format looked atrocious. I'm not sure you could actually do it worse, mine was a folder for every playlist, with a CSV for each song. Trivial for me as a programmer to reformat, but useless for the general public.

I can only assume that was an aggressive answer to "what if their playlist is, like, REALLY big?"

Re: FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify

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I have been looking to move away from Spotify for a while now due to their lacklustre support for iOS devices. Is there a good comparison between Spotify, Apple Music and Amazon Prime Music somewhere, especially in terms of their coverage?

What's lackluster about Spotify on iOS? I use Spotify on my iPad, my Android phone, and my Windows desktop and they all work pretty well. > especially in terms of their coverage? If you are a typical user with typical tastes, they are all more or less the same. If there's something in particular you want - like lossless compression or being able to upload your own music or Grateful Dead concerts - mention it and peop…

It's fine on iPad + iPhone, but their Apple Watch app was still pretty much useless last I checked (for example no way to sync songs for offline use) and they also don't seem to support the new HomePod that was just announced.
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