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Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by hashkb » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 1:41 PM UTC

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #143

hashkb wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just returned a Helix because of lackluster... everything. I'll try modelers again in a few years. I think of tube amps a lot like I think about Vim.

The Helix is honestly pretty awful, so I'm not surprised you returned it. I spent some time auditioning modellers a few years ago, and my reaction to the Helix was "LOL! Seriously??" The Kemper is far more credible, with the AxeFX system and and some of the better amp sim plugins you can buy from (say) UAD following behind.

There's only one criterion for success- blind taste test with my current rig. At this point I need mathematical proof or someone to risk something (money) for me to try again. No offense, but other people's ears have always let me down.

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by hashkb » Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 1:51 PM UTC

52-6F-62 wrote: post #88

hashkb wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just returned a Helix because of lackluster... everything. I'll try modelers again in a few years. I think of tube amps a lot like I think about Vim.

I want to preface by saying I love playing with music instrumentation and other audio software and it’s long been on my list to learn more to play with ideas much like OP so hats off to Keith for releasing this software. But as far as guitar instrumentation goes— I have a lot of respect for good solid state amplifiers—think Roland Jazz Chorus—that are not modelling another sound but a very intensively tuned original…

Outside of "convenience" they're attractive for the flexible routing and parameterization. I can only realistically deploy 4 tube screamers and a handful of delays before someone notices they're all set almost exactly the same way. I'd love to replace the combinatorics with presets, and although MIDI routing is an option, it sure would be nice if a compact reliable digital solution sounded good.

So that's why I want it to be good... But it's not.

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by 52-6F-62 » Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 8:46 PM UTC

hashkb wrote: post #162

52-6F-62 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to preface by saying I love playing with music instrumentation and other audio software and it’s long been on my list to learn more to play with ideas much like OP so hats off to Keith for releasing this software. But as far as guitar instrumentation goes— I have a lot of respect for good solid state amplifiers—think Roland Jazz Chorus—that are not modelling another sound but a very intensively tuned original…

Outside of "convenience" they're attractive for the flexible routing and parameterization. I can only realistically deploy 4 tube screamers and a handful of delays before someone notices they're all set almost exactly the same way. I'd love to replace the combinatorics with presets, and although MIDI routing is an option, it sure would be nice if a compact reliable digital solution sounded good. So that's why I want…

Sure, I hear you— but then are you really looking for good modelling? Or are you looking for an entirely novel sound processing that just drew inspiration from the physical devices? I understand the latter. I don't understand the former... except for maybe as an exercise.