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Charisma: Now You’ve Got It, Now You Don’t

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Re: Charisma: Now You’ve Got It, Now You Don’t

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a book on authoritarian followers, which (at least when I'd read it pre-2016[1]) had some surprising-to-me suggestions for deradicalisation: https://theauthoritarians.org (pp. 240-245, by numbering, not by pdf page)

Bonus fable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Frogs_Who_Desired_a_King

[1] in its current incarnation, it, like much of the world, may have become obssessed with a particular authoritarian leader. I hope not. Pages 240-245 seem to be as I remembered. See https://theauthoritarians.org if you wish to see how it's currently positioned.

Re: Charisma: Now You’ve Got It, Now You Don’t

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As far as I'm concerned charisma is like heavy perfume or cologne that someone wears when they don't take a shower. It's probably covering something else. -- dr Ramani Durvasula, licensed clinical psychologist https://youtu.be/8EqSlSPHjR0?t=195

So, basically, it's better to be uncharismatic? I find this hard to believe, we're social creatures.

Re: Charisma: Now You’ve Got It, Now You Don’t

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As far as I'm concerned charisma is like heavy perfume or cologne that someone wears when they don't take a shower. It's probably covering something else. -- dr Ramani Durvasula, licensed clinical psychologist https://youtu.be/8EqSlSPHjR0?t=195

Dr Ramani is pretty awesome, but all her views are heavily skewed towards narcissism and it's dangers, rightfully so, since people seem to underestimate that trait.

It all depends how you define charisma. If it's "larger than life" it can be and is often abused, if it's "easy to be around and suave" that comes closer to what I would think charisma is.

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As far as I'm concerned charisma is like heavy perfume or cologne that someone wears when they don't take a shower. It's probably covering something else. -- dr Ramani Durvasula, licensed clinical psychologist https://youtu.be/8EqSlSPHjR0?t=195

So, basically, it's better to be uncharismatic? I find this hard to believe, we're social creatures.

It's not a dichotomy, there is a middle ground.

Re: Charisma: Now You’ve Got It, Now You Don’t

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> Weber claimed that a charismatic leader remains charismatic only so long as he is perceived to be charismatic. There is, he held, a reciprocity or “recognition” that ties charismatic leaders to their followers

I haven't really thought of it in this way, but it gave me an epiphany that my struggle with being charismatic, which is that I can be very, but it takes effort and is exhausting sometimes, is at least partly due to the context switching required to "know your audience". If your audience changes often, it becomes more difficult to maintain.

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