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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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I feel we need to talk about the charger. It is not included in the box. The reasoning is that we have our chargers from previous iPhones. But those white boxes all take USB-A. The included cable is USB-C. Never mind, I will just use the USB-C charger from other devices. But wait... the cable that comes in the box is USB-C male and those adapters from other devices don't take USB-C (either fixed cable, or USB-A, or n…

> But those white boxes all take USB-A.

Yeah, and the USB A to lightning cables they came with still work fine on the new phones. Just because it comes with a USB C cable doesn’t mean you have to use it.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Of note: the iPhone 12 mini appears to be slightly smaller and lighter than the (current) iPhone SE (2), so is basically the phone those of us who prefer phone-sized phones have been asking for for years. The price differential of $300 seems reasonable (in Apple-adjusted numbers); if I hadn't bought an SE this past month (unfortunate toddler-related water incident!) then I'd be right in there.

I'm really hoping someone like Samsung or Sony picks up on the small iPhone with the same specs as the normal one and come up with something similar in their next gen when my Pixel 3 will be due for an upgrade. (I don't use apple phones because I'm against not being able to run whatever you want on your pocket computer)

S10e came out year and a half ago! Unfortunate despite everyone complaining no one bought it and we didnt get s20e. Seriously that has been the best smart phone I've ever used or heard of and if mine dies I'm buying the exact same one.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

MagSafe can be seen as the replacement for AirPower! It's solving the same problem in a much simpler way. AirPower's big promise was that it was a multi-device charging mat that didn't require perfect alignment to get high power charging. Apple ultimately cancelled it, likely because this proved too difficult to do safely. (rumored to be thermal issues with the multi-coil design) MagSafe solves the alignment problem…

How strong is the magnet? I can already see a benefit. Don't put you're phone "down" to charge it, put it up on the charger pad that's mounted to the wall. Can be placed out of the way where it's not in danger of being tripped over or spilled on, and frees tabletop space.

They announced Belkin is making a car mount that uses the magnets in the phone so they’re strong enough for that it seems

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Face ID is a major downgrade from Touch ID regardless of the pandemic. Touch ID (combined with a home button) is a lot faster. You can reach into your pocket or handbag, put the finger on the button and press it while you're taking it out . By the time your phone is out it's unlocked and on the home screen. I don't recall seeing people failing to unlock their phones while paying with Apple Pay before but now it's a r…

This is definitely subjective because I love Face ID and haven't missed Touch ID once since I got my iPhone 11. And I loved Touch ID.

Note that I'm in a COVID-free part of Australia so I'm not affected by mask wearing.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

> Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric

A 6 character alphanumeric is still way safer than a 6 character numeric. Just pick something you can type as quickly as you can punch in 6 numbers?

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My iPhone 6S+ is still running super smooth. Maybe because I'm not a huge photography buff or mobile gamer, but each year I wait to see something that will finally make me buy a new one, but each year I just don't see it.

I don't know exactly what I'm waiting for, but this wasn't really it.

(Also enjoying using one of the last TouchID iPhones during Covid 19)

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The released phones are priced between $1100 to $2000 (eqv in India). What do these really have to offer that trumps putting that money into a mutual fund if you actually are willing to spend that kind of money? I'm quite sure this price range is high even in the US? To me (and I can afford this) it looks insane to sink that kind of money into a bloody phone.

- Why take any vacations or time off? After all you can just put that into a mutual fund. - Why enjoy any specific meals or foods? A simple, repeatable dish means you can save more money to put into your mutual fund. - Why enjoy that movie or album? After all, that's another dollar you could be putting into your mutual fund! All work and no play is not a way to live life either. Some folks like having the latest-and-…

Faux analogies and all they indicate is that apple marketing has won in projecting so much "luxury value" on these things.

The comparison I'm drawing is what do you get out of this that you don't get out of, say, a $200 phone, that is worth paying 5-10x the price. The enjoyment ratio between a vacay and no vacay is way more and hence isn't a suitable comparison. Heck, spending $2000 on a vacation seems more worth it than the phone (to me).

It's a bloody phone. You'll browse stuff with it, do email, maybe tweet and Instagram or Facebook. None of that demands that budget today. Heck it wouldn't even feel different in those apps in the way an Audi or bmw would.

I use a phone that's plenty performant for all of that (and I don't insta or FB), with plenty memory (6gb) and storage (128gb) that I paid $150 for.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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The released phones are priced between $1100 to $2000 (eqv in India). What do these really have to offer that trumps putting that money into a mutual fund if you actually are willing to spend that kind of money? I'm quite sure this price range is high even in the US? To me (and I can afford this) it looks insane to sink that kind of money into a bloody phone.

Some people are simply so rich that spending $1-2k is nothing for them. Others are looking to show-off.

My crib here isn't about those who can afford it. It is about folks (specifically in India) who actually can't afford it and are pushing through for the "prestige". It's their life, but that they would prioritize it over .. well ... living ... Makes me turn laser eyes on Apple marketing.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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My iPhone 6S+ is still running super smooth. Maybe because I'm not a huge photography buff or mobile gamer, but each year I wait to see something that will finally make me buy a new one, but each year I just don't see it. I don't know exactly what I'm waiting for, but this wasn't really it. (Also enjoying using one of the last TouchID iPhones during Covid 19)

This is pretty much my exact situation. The new iPhones have been so underwhelming and so highly priced that I haven't felt the need or want to upgrade.

Now previously this year, I dropped my phone and the glass broke - but it still works. So I am on the verge of upgrading, but iPhone 12 still doesn't really... make me want to upgrade - if I can put it like that.

So I am rolling with a cracked screen iPhone 6S+ until I can find the motivation to upgrade. Maybe my battery life is becoming one and the problem with charging.

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