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Post by sjwright »

Damogran6 wrote: post #543
bnj wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The magsafe is really cool but for anyone interested in the wallet accessory just be careful with putting NFC chipped cards there. Paying with Apple Pay from your phone could get confusing.

I tried a few months back to pair down as many cards as I could and just couldn't get under 7 (medical, CC, ID, Fleet Diesel Card, Insurance, etc.) I don't know how people get it down to 3-4...

In Sydney Australia, I have a Government app for an electronic Driver License. My public and private health insurance details are just numbers, the physical cards aren't necessary. So while I do still carry a wallet, it's only out of habit and I really should stop it.

Any cards which are specific for driving (e.g. fleet fuel, insurance, physical license as backup, etc) could live inside your car in a "driving wallet".

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by killerdhmo »

whatever1 wrote: post #624

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

This phone was designed, locked in place, and started manufacturing years ago.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by brittohalloran »

Nextgrid wrote: post #760
whatever1 wrote: post #624

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Face ID is a major downgrade from Touch ID regardless of the pandemic. Touch ID (combined with a home button) is a lot faster. You can reach into your pocket or handbag, put the finger on the button and press it while you're taking it out . By the time your phone is out it's unlocked and on the home screen. I don't recall seeing people failing to unlock their phones while paying with Apple Pay before but now it's a r…

The Pixel 3XL and others had it right - fingerprint sensor on the back (natural spot for your pointer finger), still allowing for the whole front of the device to be the screen.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by mav3rick »

sriku wrote: post #785

The released phones are priced between $1100 to $2000 (eqv in India). What do these really have to offer that trumps putting that money into a mutual fund if you actually are willing to spend that kind of money? I'm quite sure this price range is high even in the US? To me (and I can afford this) it looks insane to sink that kind of money into a bloody phone.

What a dumb question. This is a luxury. Why buy an Audi, Mercedes, BMW, if you can put the money in a mutual fund.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

roadbeats wrote: post #597
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #558

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm blown away that 5.4" is "mini". I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.

I use Jelly, a tiny smartphone that fits the little keychain pocket of my running shortpants, I don't even feel it while running. They released a newer version of it, Jelly 2, if you're interested in small phones.

I looked and I like everything I see about it except for the mediocre camera. I want exactly what I see there, but with a premium camera and maybe a better SoC. I'm not looking for a cheap budget phone, but for that form factor and I'd pay for it. I'd have a hard time giving up my Pixel 3's camera, it'd be odd to have to start carrying around a separate camera.

Kinda reminds me of my first gen Palm Pre. Loved that phone.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by urda »

sriku wrote: post #785

The released phones are priced between $1100 to $2000 (eqv in India). What do these really have to offer that trumps putting that money into a mutual fund if you actually are willing to spend that kind of money? I'm quite sure this price range is high even in the US? To me (and I can afford this) it looks insane to sink that kind of money into a bloody phone.

- Why take any vacations or time off? After all you can just put that into a mutual fund.

- Why enjoy any specific meals or foods? A simple, repeatable dish means you can save more money to put into your mutual fund.

- Why enjoy that movie or album? After all, that's another dollar you could be putting into your mutual fund!

All work and no play is not a way to live life either. Some folks like having the latest-and-greatest, others don't mind having the same phone for years on end. If you just boil the entire world down to money in, money out, and mutual funds you are going to have a very unsatisfying and unfulfilling life.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Phrodo_00 »

Amorymeltzer wrote: post #178

Of note: the iPhone 12 mini appears to be slightly smaller and lighter than the (current) iPhone SE (2), so is basically the phone those of us who prefer phone-sized phones have been asking for for years. The price differential of $300 seems reasonable (in Apple-adjusted numbers); if I hadn't bought an SE this past month (unfortunate toddler-related water incident!) then I'd be right in there.

I'm really hoping someone like Samsung or Sony picks up on the small iPhone with the same specs as the normal one and come up with something similar in their next gen when my Pixel 3 will be due for an upgrade.

(I don't use apple phones because I'm against not being able to run whatever you want on your pocket computer)

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by pfundstein »

infinityplus1 wrote: post #790
sriku wrote: post #785

The released phones are priced between $1100 to $2000 (eqv in India). What do these really have to offer that trumps putting that money into a mutual fund if you actually are willing to spend that kind of money? I'm quite sure this price range is high even in the US? To me (and I can afford this) it looks insane to sink that kind of money into a bloody phone.

Some people are simply so rich that spending $1-2k is nothing for them. Others are looking to show-off.

It's just a matter of disposable income, you really don't have to be "so rich" to afford a $2k phone every year.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by sriku »

caseyf7 wrote: post #789
sriku wrote: post #785

The released phones are priced between $1100 to $2000 (eqv in India). What do these really have to offer that trumps putting that money into a mutual fund if you actually are willing to spend that kind of money? I'm quite sure this price range is high even in the US? To me (and I can afford this) it looks insane to sink that kind of money into a bloody phone.

Totally agree. The new emphasis on monthly payments Is also notable. It’s like they want people to view monthly phone payments like Americans view monthly car payments and buy a phone beyond their needs.

Those finding the monthly payments attractive should consider bumping that into an SIP (a systematic investment plan). I'm actually pained to watch folks in India to whom that kind of money would be several months salary burn it away like that for whatever fake notion of "prestige" they get from it.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by borgel »

adolph wrote: post #508
jeroen wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Smaller than the 2nd SE, a bit larger than the 1st one: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?device1=iphoneSE&devic...

Is the depth measure with or without the camera bump? I was not expecting it to be .2mm thinner than SE (1).

I believe it does NOT include the camera bump.
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