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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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I think the concept of the wallet that can quickly snap on and off of the phone is pretty neat. I currently use a case that has a wallet functionality (for my driver's license and credit cards) and that doesn't allow me to use wireless charging without completely taking the case off.

I see some issues there: - Is keeping a magnet near my credit /public transport cards safe? Can't they be damaged by magnets? - all of those cards are contactless in my country. Will I have to take them out to use apple pay, to avoid approaching a bung of nfc cards ?

> a bung of nfc cards

A what?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#752

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the concept of the wallet that can quickly snap on and off of the phone is pretty neat. I currently use a case that has a wallet functionality (for my driver's license and credit cards) and that doesn't allow me to use wireless charging without completely taking the case off.

I see some issues there: - Is keeping a magnet near my credit /public transport cards safe? Can't they be damaged by magnets? - all of those cards are contactless in my country. Will I have to take them out to use apple pay, to avoid approaching a bung of nfc cards ?

The wallet bit is shielded so the magnet won't affect them.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#753

Intercom made me wish I had a family to use it with. Apple does a great job of developing solutions, not just features.

>Apple does a great job of developing solutions Intercom is not a solution. Our house growing up had an intercom in every room. We used it for all of 2 days before we figured out that simply calling someone loudly was simpler. Apple is great at providing solutions to problems that they tell you that you have. Not to mention that other device like Alexa already have this.

How can you complain at Apple for making up problems and at the same time criticise Apple for not having a thing everyone else has? If Amazon had it first, Apple didn't make it up. If not having it impresses you then it shouldn't be a point that Alexa had it first, that would be bad. If having what Alexa has impresses you, then Apple should be adding it, and adding it is not bad. You can't have both.

> Not to mention that other device like Alexa already have this.

Then don't mention it. What on earth do Android or Lisp or Linux users think will happen when they say "X had it first"? The only sane conclusion is that X is not the reason people avoided Android/Lisp/Linux. That was already clear because people were not tempted over by the presense of X. So if the only point is show gloat or be dismissive and/or scornful, who would want to move to a system which has the same feature but has a public facing community that's more about gloating and scoffing than being welcoming or helping?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#754

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

This has been the biggest unexpected benefit of having gone with an SE back in March...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Why is this considered an exemplary shot? https://www.apple.com/v/iphone-12/a/images/overview/camera/s... (first picture under "Automatic magic") The pants look artificial, the hands and feet are really dark, you can't see the detail on the trees. Is this just a really hard angle to shoot, against the summer sky?

Wide angle, no motion blur, is it HDR? I honestly don’t know myself.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

But how big is it??? I waited years to get the SE2 and it turned out to be the size of iPhone 8. The same iPhone 8 that introduced the double-tap to fix the “thumb reach problem” which Apple usd to proudly tout for the ORIGINAL iPhone 5 and SE. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6K3lTwGxMTk

The "reach" gesture was actually introduced with the iPhone 6 Plus, due to its larger size.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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It's likely solve the gap of "I can't use my phone while it's wirelessly charging". With the magsafe thing you can just clunk the charger to the back of your phone and keep using it. While battery life is still crap on these (side note - I didn't hear a single thing in the presentation about battery life... yikes) people are going to be charging their phones while they use them. I hate to be a pessimist but with them…

I guess my confusion is basically that: if I want to use my phone while it charges, I just plug it in with a lightning cable. I don’t need it to “wirelessly” charge if I’m having to connect something to the device anyway. It seems to be a weird 3rd option for charging. They’re definitely getting rid of the port, maybe next year.

The primary use case is watching a movie or listening to music with headphones. Can’t charge and listen without an extra dongle. Apples solution is BT headphone they sell but it’s a bad pattern.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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post #485

Why is this considered an exemplary shot? https://www.apple.com/v/iphone-12/a/images/overview/camera/s... (first picture under "Automatic magic") The pants look artificial, the hands and feet are really dark, you can't see the detail on the trees. Is this just a really hard angle to shoot, against the summer sky?

looks like a video game

The lack of definition in the arms, the sharp lighting and the absence of any sense of motion combine to make it look posed in garrysmod or something.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

Another note: the iPhone 12s still support Qi wireless charging, up to 7.5W. MagSafe allows faster 15W charging (sigh). Apple said during the event that it wants a MagSafe ecosystem, so expect chargers, mounts and so on from third parties.- nilay Patel on Twitter

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#760

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Face ID is a major downgrade from Touch ID regardless of the pandemic.

Touch ID (combined with a home button) is a lot faster. You can reach into your pocket or handbag, put the finger on the button and press it while you're taking it out. By the time your phone is out it's unlocked and on the home screen. I don't recall seeing people failing to unlock their phones while paying with Apple Pay before but now it's a reasonably common occurrence if they didn't "prime" it ahead of time.

You can also quickly unlock your phone if it's not directly aligned with your face without having to pick it up (let's say it's on a table or desk) or if you're letting another person handle it.

Face ID is also annoying in bed, when either your face is obstructed by pillows/blankets or if you're holding your phone too close to your face and need to hold it further away for a second, illuminating the whole room in the process.

Touch ID also makes the authentication action explicit. If you're handling someone else's phone, you can look at the lockscreen without attempting to authenticate by simply keeping away from the home button and using the power button to wake it up. With Face ID the simple fact of looking at the phone is an authentication attempt and you'd be consuming the limited amount of attempts the owner has before they have to fall back to a passcode.

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