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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by stirlo »

AgentEpsilon wrote: post #200

I feel like I'm going insane. On every single model revealed today, there is a differently-colored patch on the right side of the phone, below the power button. What is it? It's not the SIM card slot - that's on the left side. It's not a new TouchID sensor - the website doesn't even mention it at all. And yet it exists in every single render.

It's not present on the renders on the Apple AU site so that would confirm it's related to mmWave which is not available outside US.

AU: https://www.apple.com/au/iphone-12/images/overview/design_mi... US: https://www.apple.com/v/iphone-12/a/images/overview/design/d...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by dfcowell »

whatever1 wrote: post #624

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

100% this. That omission took the 12 from an insta-buy to an "I'm probably going to skip this gen."

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by fraudsyndrome »

riantogo wrote: post #565

I feel we need to talk about the charger. It is not included in the box. The reasoning is that we have our chargers from previous iPhones. But those white boxes all take USB-A. The included cable is USB-C. Never mind, I will just use the USB-C charger from other devices. But wait... the cable that comes in the box is USB-C male and those adapters from other devices don't take USB-C (either fixed cable, or USB-A, or n…

Then people will but the USB-C adapter but in 2-3 years Apple will be removing the charging port altogether and introduce wireless charging only!

I actually don't like that they removed the accessories from the box, unless they can prove that they reduced the cost of the phone's overall price.

I sell my accessories to other people which reduces the phones overall cost by a non-insignificant amount. People will happily pay $5 less for a 2nd hand (but brand new and unused) Apple accessory like earpods/adapter if it's genuine since there are so many fakes out there.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by q3k »

samatman wrote: post #705
whatever1 wrote: post #624

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Sure is. Problem is that Apple just isn't nimble enough to do anything about it. Everything important about these phones was set in place before there was a pandemic.

There's nothing forcing them to release new phones now instead of delaying and releasing a better product.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by terrywang »

Amorymeltzer wrote: post #178

Of note: the iPhone 12 mini appears to be slightly smaller and lighter than the (current) iPhone SE (2), so is basically the phone those of us who prefer phone-sized phones have been asking for for years. The price differential of $300 seems reasonable (in Apple-adjusted numbers); if I hadn't bought an SE this past month (unfortunate toddler-related water incident!) then I'd be right in there.

I am keen to get a iPhone 12 mini once the iPhone X breaks (it had a touch screen replacement already within warranty, touch issues, problem still exists).

Size is pefect (iPhone range), love the iPhone 4 like frame and overall look. I don't use a phone too much at home (only on the go) so don't need the iPhone 12 Pro premium features. For taking photos and videos, I'll use the Sony A7 iii.

NOTE: in Australia the price is A$1199 for 12 mini 64GB, and A$1449 256GB (more expensive than my iPhone X 256GB).

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by samatman »

hentrep wrote: post #239

Does the MagSafe feature run the risk of demagnetizing credit cards and hotel keys?

Yeah, that concerns me.

My left pocket loadout is a small carbon fiber clip, with cards and cash, and my phone. Been that way for five years and I have no intention of ever changing it.

I'm skipping this year, mostly because I want the Max camera and the regular form factor, but also to get some field data on whether this newfangled mag connector scrambles cards.

On the one hand, they're prominently featuring an accessory which clips your cards to the magnet itself. On the other hand, they build that accessory, and they don't build my clip, which offers no magnetic flux protection whatsoever.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by riantogo »

julienb_sea wrote: post #706
dont__panic wrote: post #679

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems especially frustrating for folks who are upgrading from a non-iPhone with a non-USB-C wall wart. If you're unfortunate to end up in that situation and you don't have a laptop with USB-C... you literally won't be able to charge your new iPhone . Especially worrying because I don't have a personal laptop with USB-C or any USB-C wall warts. I have a lot of friends who don't have any USB-C gadgets at all. Kids who…

To be honest this doesn't seem like that large of an issue. The primary market for this device is people who already own an iphone. They already have lightning charging capabilities in their bedroom, in their car. A new charger is pretty optional for the "main" market. There is a minority of people, like myself, who are basically entirely on USB-C and can charge my laptop, ipad and android phone all on the same cable…

"They already have lightning charging capabilities in their bedroom, in their car": The issue is not about the lightning end of things. It is the other end. I'm an iPhone user since 2007. Not having a USB-A_to_lightning solution in the box is super inconvenient. It would have cost Apple $2 to either include a split USB-C/USB-A cable or a small USB-A_to_USB-C adapter.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by clairity »

jonplackett wrote: post #463
Shivetya wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it is hard at times to determine if the background you see is computer generated or not. I am not sure that difficult in distinction is a good trend

I was wondering how they'd done the house with open sides. Looked really realistic but even apple don't have enough money to burn on stripping the side wall of a house off for a 10 minute segment... or do they?

the thing that caught my eye was that there was only 1 bedroom upstairs, so where do the kids sleep?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by mromanuk »

dnh44 wrote: post #555
mromanuk wrote: post #498

I'm surprised that Apple didn't add a fix or workaround to unlock the phone while wearing a face mask. Should be plenty of features to recognize a person or the mask can be added. It's really annoying to loose the unlock with your face feature and go back to entering the code while outside.

I’ve read that if you go to FaceID settings you can “set up an alternative appearance” and rescan your face with a mask. I’ve not tried it though.

Nope, it doesn’t work. It ask you to uncover your face

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by toxik »

joshgachnang wrote: post #658
bredren wrote: post #644

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also thought the usability of the charger was odd. It seems you would pick the phone up and if you didn’t grab and put down the charging disk, it would go clunk and hit the ground. Sort of like the watch charger will do if it isn’t in a holder. Except louder and more expensive to replace. This was actually shown in the “snap” video they showed where a phone was pulled away. I couldn’t understand, are we expected to…

Personally, I'm waiting for it to release before jumping to conclusions. It's possible it's weighted so this isn't an issue, or the magnet is just strong enough to hold it in place but make it easy to pick up. Apple's usually pretty decent about providing a nice UX for these kinds of things. But I do agree the watch charger is a weird thing that pretty much requires a stand to feel complete.

Put it on something magnetic. It sticks to whatever it sits on. I put it on my pc chassis.
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