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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Apple’s product pages are pretty cool and definitely clean in terms of visual assets and copy, but the usability is brutal. Seems like it started with the AirPods page and will likely continue. Would much rather have a page that is as clean but less scroll effects.

It’s completely broken. You can’t even select text. Might as well just make it one long-ass video.

I can select text on Firefox. I also really enjoy the scrolling effects, I think the experience is really high quality.

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post #663

Can we talk about the hypocrisy of the recycling segment given that Apple is a known adversary of the “right to repair” bill? All of this “net-zero” talk yet they have a system in place that makes it prohibitively expensive to repair slightly damaged devices (ie, bad battery) out of warranty. So, consumers are left to live with the problem, pay for the cost of the repair which ends up costing about 1/2 to 3/4 of a ne…

Relatively I've understood that iPhones are still more repairable than Samsungs and other Android, based on ratings from companies that rank these (can't find a link on my phone)

Maybe Samsungs are no better, but compared to a Fairphone it's quite obvious that Apple doesn't prioritize repairability in any meaningful way.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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I honestly can't wait to buy it. I'm so tired of my 6.7" phone.

I'm very tired of my 5.6" phone (Pixel 3A). 5.4" seems a small upgrade, but maybe worth it. I've been on the Android camp for a decade, but I'm getting fed up with these enormous phones. It's ironic that there's a million Android manufacturers and zero good small Android phones, while there is one iPhone manufacturer and they may actually take the small phone market.

Because of aspect ratios and bezels, the 12 Mini is significantly smaller than the 3A. The 12 Mini is smack dab between the size of the iPhone 5 and the iPhone 6, whereas the 3A is roughly the size of a current iphone 11.

Diagonals only tell you so much, unfortunately.

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Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

It's likely solve the gap of "I can't use my phone while it's wirelessly charging". With the magsafe thing you can just clunk the charger to the back of your phone and keep using it. While battery life is still crap on these (side note - I didn't hear a single thing in the presentation about battery life... yikes) people are going to be charging their phones while they use them. I hate to be a pessimist but with them…

Site claims about the same with small pro losing an estimated hour and mini having 5 hours or so less.

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I think it's recognizing the (at least true for me) reality that I have practically an entire box of wall-to-usb power adapters.

Wall-to-USB-C?

I have at least three but if you don't why not just buy one and be set for the next eight or so years? It does seem like a huge waste that every device in the foreseeable future will ship with a new USB-C charger that is quite redundant.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#676

I feel like I'm going insane. On every single model revealed today, there is a differently-colored patch on the right side of the phone, below the power button. What is it? It's not the SIM card slot - that's on the left side. It's not a new TouchID sensor - the website doesn't even mention it at all. And yet it exists in every single render.

I kept thinking it was the SIM card slot earlier in the presentation, but from what I've read on Reddit it sounds like it's part of the 5G antennae array.

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My big question is... does the new "Ceramic Shield" mean that I won't need a screen protector anymore?

You haven't needed a screen protector in a long time.

Glass screens are reasonably resistant to scratching, but they're very prone to shattering. A tempered glass screen protector acts like a crumple zone, dissipating energy and spreading shock loads that would otherwise shatter the underlying screen.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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post #581

Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

> Why not flush surface contacts?

Cases then need to have an exposed area for charging, and the surface contacts lower the weather resistance.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#679

I feel we need to talk about the charger. It is not included in the box. The reasoning is that we have our chargers from previous iPhones. But those white boxes all take USB-A. The included cable is USB-C. Never mind, I will just use the USB-C charger from other devices. But wait... the cable that comes in the box is USB-C male and those adapters from other devices don't take USB-C (either fixed cable, or USB-A, or n…

Seems especially frustrating for folks who are upgrading from a non-iPhone with a non-USB-C wall wart. If you're unfortunate to end up in that situation and you don't have a laptop with USB-C... you literally won't be able to charge your new iPhone.

Especially worrying because I don't have a personal laptop with USB-C or any USB-C wall warts. I have a lot of friends who don't have any USB-C gadgets at all. Kids who finally get old enough for a phone will be in for a rude awakening.

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To be honest, this move by Apple is good for first world countries where many people may keep their older devices and power adapters, but will raise the costs in other countries where people usually sell their phones (with accessories) and replace those with new ones. Oh wait, people in first world countries do trade-ins too. I think a minuscule number of people won’t mind this. For the rest, these phones are going t…

You're right, but to add a datapoint, I've done a few phone trade-ins that never included power adapters/accessories. Just the handset itself.

When I traded my last phone in, I brought in the charger and was told to keep it -- that they throw power adapters away. No one wants to buy a refurb phone and have the cord suddenly fray a month later.
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