iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by actuator » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:35 PM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #412

actuator wrote: post #320

I understand the value of the different phone sizes but still can't understand why companies are selling 64 GB models. I know we have everything in the cloud these days but with apps with rich assets and smartphones being more capable with cameras, you run out of 64 GB quite easily. 128 GB should be the baseline model in 2020 for any phone that costs above $600.

> you run out of 64 GB quite easily You might; I am still trying to figure out how to use my 32 GB…

I seem to run out of it quite fast. Even if we exclude all the new app install space, a typical 64 GB phone will have around 50 GB usable space.

50 GB is 66 mins of 4K 60 fps video or about 5000 RAW photos. I understand that in a city this might be enough but consider if you are traveling.

You will likely store songs for listening offline, you might not have wifi available with you to sync daily so you can't keep deleting your photos and videos once you have synced them.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by mcintyre1994 » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:35 PM UTC

Zaheer wrote: post #177

"Across the iPhone family, we’re removing the power adapter and EarPods that often go unused, but including the fast-charging USB‑C to Lightning cable that most people need." Ouch. Do most people really not use the power adapter?

Does everyone except me have a power adapter with a USB-C port on it? I’ve definitely never got one off Apple, though my Apple stuff is at least 2 years old so maybe they have been shipping them? But if I got one of these phones that cable would be useless, except I guess for plugging my phone into my work laptop without using a dock.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by avtar » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:37 PM UTC

balls187 wrote: post #142

jorge-d wrote: post #77

They just announced that the iPhone 12 will ship only with a lightning to USB-C cable. I don't understand why they don't switch from lightning to USB-C despite already using it on the iPads.

Probably to allow more people to use existing charging cables, and accessories, as a way to limit e-waste. I dunno if I buy that rationale, but they certainly were touting e-waste as the reason for omitting the pack-ins.

And yet they dropped USB-A ports on all of their laptops and switched to USB-C on iPad...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by whatever1 » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:38 PM UTC

Huge miss to not have touch id in a era of a raging pandemic. I literally have not used the face-id once outside my house since March, because I always use a mask, so I have to type in my password. Which I had to revert to an unsafe 6 digit one from my 12char alphanumeric that I had until March.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by kwanbix » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:38 PM UTC

I cannot understand that huge notch.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by doc_gunthrop » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:39 PM UTC

cmckn wrote: post #581

Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

There appear to be a lot of people who use those ring-shaped grip holders (or a Popsocket, which has a similar functionality) that stick to the back of a mobile phone.

It appears you can have either MagSafe or the phone holder, but not both. Does Apple have a solution for this?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ricardobeat » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:39 PM UTC

chki wrote: post #49

Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

> what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

Real-time 3D/VR video streams. I think this will start happening immediately after release since the Pro models have LiDAR. Expect weird, interesting things to happen in games and streaming.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Terretta » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:42 PM UTC

fomine3 wrote: post #430

tomerico wrote: post #401

What's amazing to me is how little of a difference they have between the regular and pro models: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ It basically boils down to a few relatively minor camera features perhaps except for the addition of a 2x camera (The other differences are Lidar sensor, 60fps HDR recording at vs 30fps, and saving in RAW). It looks like they think that just creating the impression that the pro model…

It seems that now iPhone 12 uses same housing design as 12 Pro. I think Pro is almost only for camera upgrade (including LIDAR).

Those are, to be fair, pro photography and video features, that likely make a real difference only to pros and so-called prosumers.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by jonplackett » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:42 PM UTC

hrktb wrote: post #533

jonplackett wrote: post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty dumb to call it magsafe. With a laptop it really did keep your laptop safe from getting pulled off a desk when you got up to get a coffee and walked through the cord like an idiot. What exactly is 'safe' about this? It's just... mag.

Lightning cables break if the phone falls at a weird angle or if you pull while twisting on the weakest side. I thing the “safe” monicker is still warranted.

I mean, it used to cost you a $2000 laptop. Now it costs you maybe $10, and only if you're really unlucky. I'd say it's a push.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by packetlost » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:42 PM UTC

arcticbull wrote: post #80

chki wrote: post #49

Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

5G is for the cell carriers not the customers. Towers can simultaneously transmit to a certain number of clients at a time, so if you can get latency down and bandwidth up, you can service effectively more clients in the same period of time. With that said clients benefit too since they can shut down their power-sucking radios sooner. Think of it like turbo boost for CPUs: it's all about racing to get the link to sle…

This isn't strictly true, consumers will benefit with better signals and less slowdowns in dense areas such as sports stadiums.