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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by acomjean »

ahnick wrote: post #464

I noticed that the new iphone 12 has a f/2.0 aperture telephoto lens whereas my existing iphone XS has a f/2.4 aperture telephoto lens. What are the implications of this? I always understood that for a telephoto lens you wanted the f-stop number to be higher, so that the image is clearer since the subject is at a greater distance. My gut instinct is that the iphone XS/XR lens might capture a sharper initial image, bu…

as others have said, the lower the f stop the more light the lens lets in. lower is almost always better, (But makes lenses bigger and heavier). The amount of light halves as the f stop goes up, but its in steps. 1.4/2/2.8/4/5.6 . so the difference is about 1/2 stop, not huge.

As you close the lens iris (the f stop # goes up) you get more of the image "in focus", so focus doesn't need to be as precise. But you'll need a minimum shutter speed so moving objects in the frame don't blur.

wikipedia has a good photo example of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field#Effect_of_lens_...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by strogonoff »

Nice to see the old angular frame[0], but disheartening to not see no LCD model. I have avoided OLED so far since I can spend a lot of time looking at my phone’s screen in low light and I’d rather not deal with PWM.

I had hopes for Touch ID comeback (IIRC Apple has a patent for fingerprint reader integrated in phone body or screen), but oh well.

[0] Although it was much better when power button was on the top—in all modern iPhones on/off can be easily mistaken for volume up/down by touch.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by secondcoming »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #558
kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

I'm blown away that 5.4" is "mini". I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.

Try get a Nokia N700

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by hk__2 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #558
kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

I'm blown away that 5.4" is "mini". I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.

> I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.

I have a 4" iPhone SE. It’s great, but the web is becoming less and less usable as designers/developpers have larger phones and forget smaller screen sizes. It’s common to have cookies/newsletter popins with a button that’s too far below the screen, and sticky menus are the hell.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by CoryAlexMartin »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #558
kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

I'm blown away that 5.4" is "mini". I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.

I'd pay decent money for a 4 inch phone as well. I've been in the Apple ecosystem for years but decided to search for a current Android phone that's around that size, but couldn't find anything decent.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by roadbeats »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #558
kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

I'm blown away that 5.4" is "mini". I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.

I use Jelly, a tiny smartphone that fits the little keychain pocket of my running shortpants, I don't even feel it while running. They released a newer version of it, Jelly 2, if you're interested in small phones.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Tainnor »

tomashertus wrote: post #408
joakleaf wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks impressive, but why does everybody talk in that weird way;"Wow. What an exciting day." It feels so weird and artificial. It actually makes them sound less enthusiastic and genuine to me. They also present a lot of features (especially photos), but without comparison I am left wondering, how much better is the new stuff. And why should I buy it... Sounds great with that new glass too; I wondered if they would…

> why does everybody talk in that weird way;"Wow. What an exciting day." It feels so weird and artificial This gets me every time. It's so artificial that I'm pulling my hair. I honestly don't know, why everyone is always so so "excited". Every time I hear someone say "this is exciting", I think BS. We had a colleague and his go-to phrase was "This is super exciting". "SUPER EXCITING!"

Where do you live? Because I'm from Europe and I used to work for a US company but in a European office and it was kind of a running joke among us that the people from the HQ would always call everything "amazing" and have these all-hands meetings that felt like rallies to us.

I think this fits the cliché that we have about Americans, although I'm sure it's not like that everywhere.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by 734129837261 »

What an annoying presentation. They try to make 5G look like it's invented by Apple by labeling it "innovation". No, Tim Apple, it's Qualcomm who made that chip. You just had your hardware team build it inside the phone.

The screen, same deal. A fancy name for technology that's been around for a while. Nobody will really see the difference between the screen on an iPhone X and iPhone 12, but hey, it's a sales-talk.

Speaking of 5G, they're trying to sell us onto the idea that we need it. We are still dealing with relatively low bandwidth caps from our providers, and nobody in their right mind is going to use 4GB/s to do... anything. Do they expect us to willy-nilly download games of 4GB on the go or something?

5G is technology for the providers and their benefactors, not for us the comsumers.

On to the CPU. It's faster. Great. It was already industry-leading fast. I respect processing power as something amazing and I'll respect this improvement for what it is. Great job. Not too impressed because I wouldn't use it myself, but it's nice.

Then Touch ID, wow I'm so happy they reintroduced it last-minute during this pandemic where we all wear masks when out and about. What's that? They didn't include Touch ID? You mean their superior technology that is pretty damn amazing and convenient to serve NEXT TO Face ID isn't there even though they could have?

Yikes.

Well, at least the announced 120Hz for the Pro Max and 90Hz for the smaller Pro model was nice. Hm? They didn't do that either? Oh. They're still stuck on 60Hz while the competition is delivering phones for half the money doing all of the above since about a year ago?

Yikes.

MagSafe, though. Now that is quite nice! Not even kidding. They invented magnets at Apple, like, whoa I'm going to assume that the magnetic connection will allow you to charge the phone and ALSO transfer data! Wild assumption, huh?

The case with a spare pocket for the Apple Pencil was a nice touch, though, especially now the iPhone 12 supports it. That's also a lie. I'm lying. They did not do that.

At the very least they're good for nature and such. No more charger and earphones! As a result the price has gone down a whopping $300 across the field, with a respectful nod to the people who are struggling in these dire times.

That, too, was a lie. They did no such thing.

It's another iPhone X. Nothing new here.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by nabaraz »

roadbeats wrote: post #597
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #558

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm blown away that 5.4" is "mini". I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.

I use Jelly, a tiny smartphone that fits the little keychain pocket of my running shortpants, I don't even feel it while running. They released a newer version of it, Jelly 2, if you're interested in small phones.

Curious, why not get a smartwatch with LTE?
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