iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by cmckn » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 8:58 PM UTC

Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe!

It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone?

The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable.

Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, like the MagSafe of yesteryear?

I’m also not sure why my case needs to magnetize to my device, getting rid of the lip around the screen that made it less cringe to lay my phone face down.

Am I missing something? I really don’t understand this feature.

EDIT: did I see an AirPower reboot in there or am I dreaming?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by moogleii » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 8:58 PM UTC

frankjr wrote: post #54

ehsankia wrote: post #22

These transitions are insane. The production quality is honestly fantastic. Apple has perfected the art of virtual keynotes.

Agreed. I only wish they streamed in a higher quality. 1080p looks pretty bad on a 27" 4K monitor.

If you were watching on YouTube and Safari, you were limited to 1080p. The Apple site and ATV were in 4k.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by panopticon » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:00 PM UTC

ogre_codes wrote: post #198

flixic wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is tearing me apart between Mini’s size and Pro Max camera.

Yes... absolutely. I want a Pro Mini (Max).

I have no interest in upgrading from my 11 Pro, but I thought during the event "if they announce a 12 Pro Mini...".

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by macjohnmcc » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:00 PM UTC

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #558

kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

I'm blown away that 5.4" is "mini". I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.

My wife has the Se based on the iPhone 5 and I have the iPhone Xs Max. When I look at her phone it reminds me of looking in the viewfinder of a digital camera. She likes the size and will stick with smaller.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by vmception » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:01 PM UTC

robbyking wrote: post #304

threatofrain wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an iPhone 5 advertisement about that exact feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0gtsjfy7E

I think I'm the only person who likes iOS's reachability gesture. The only annoying thing about it is sometimes it will trigger touchUpInside for buttons along the bottom of the screen, navigating me away from the screen I was on.

You aren’t the only one, I love the standard iPhone size

and switched away from Android the exact moment iphones went away from the Fisher Price toy look

at the same time, I have larger hands (proportionate for someone thats 6 feet tall) and I dont understand why people like the Max series!

so its all preferences and Apple has the pulse on the market correctly that the market can tolerate multiple SKUs at different sizes

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:04 PM UTC

robbyking wrote: post #304

threatofrain wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an iPhone 5 advertisement about that exact feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0gtsjfy7E

I think I'm the only person who likes iOS's reachability gesture. The only annoying thing about it is sometimes it will trigger touchUpInside for buttons along the bottom of the screen, navigating me away from the screen I was on.

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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by moogleii » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:04 PM UTC

marketingPro wrote: post #45

ehsankia wrote: post #22

These transitions are insane. The production quality is honestly fantastic. Apple has perfected the art of virtual keynotes.

When your business model revolves around marketing and aesthetics, you need to put the extra effort. You can tell Apple's target demographic isn't enterprise markets at every turn.

That's a tired and specious argument that might have held water if Apple were only successful for a year or two. There are a myriad of devices from competitors who also had large marketing budgets but eventually disappeared into the night.

But it's essentially been 13 years (if you only start counting from the introduction of the iPhone). Great engineering/product deserves a big marketing budget. They go hand in hand.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by mikestew » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:05 PM UTC

Damogran6 wrote: post #543

bnj wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The magsafe is really cool but for anyone interested in the wallet accessory just be careful with putting NFC chipped cards there. Paying with Apple Pay from your phone could get confusing.

I tried a few months back to pair down as many cards as I could and just couldn't get under 7 (medical, CC, ID, Fleet Diesel Card, Insurance, etc.) I don't know how people get it down to 3-4...

At least in WA state, vehicle insurance card can be electronic. Health insurance card is electronic. That leaves an ID, one CC (in case "they" don't take Apple Pay), and a Health Saving Account card that oddly cannot be added to Apple Pay. Looking in the wallet, I guess I carry my credit union debit card, too.

The point is not to brag, but point out that two of those cards get taken out because there are electronic alternatives. Some states allow electronic driver's licenses, too. Subtract those three, and there's your "3-4" in your wallet. And a fuel card, FFS, for a fleet card that couldn't be an NFC/RFID fob like Exxon has had for a decade? Which in turn might as well be a reader on the pump for your NFC payment of choice.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by lifty » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:05 PM UTC

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #144

That was actually much more substantial of an upgrade than I previously anticipated. The stronger glass, MagSafe being able to stick your phone magnetically to surfaces, and the Dolby Vision HDR recording are what really got me. Not so much 5G.

It's not widely known but iPhone 11 pro has a softer glass, more flexible, which better withstands falls. Problem is that it scratches easier than previous models. They improved this in the iPhone 12 models, maintaining the flexibility while making them harder to scratch.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by moogleii » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 9:06 PM UTC

jefftk wrote: post #485

Why is this considered an exemplary shot? https://www.apple.com/v/iphone-12/a/images/overview/camera/s... (first picture under "Automatic magic") The pants look artificial, the hands and feet are really dark, you can't see the detail on the trees. Is this just a really hard angle to shoot, against the summer sky?

It's the Grand Theft Auto filter.