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iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by vbezhenar »

arcticbull wrote: post #80
chki wrote: post #49

Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

5G is for the cell carriers not the customers. Towers can simultaneously transmit to a certain number of clients at a time, so if you can get latency down and bandwidth up, you can service effectively more clients in the same period of time. With that said clients benefit too since they can shut down their power-sucking radios sooner. Think of it like turbo boost for CPUs: it's all about racing to get the link to sle…

Gotta counter that with few JavaScript timers continuously checking for new ads every 200 ms.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by andrewzah »

smiley1437 wrote: post #523
asavadatti wrote: post #176

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The iPhone SE has a devoted following because of its size. There is a huge market for people with smaller hands. I was hoping for the headphone jack to make a comeback but I think that’s a lost cause at this point

I still use a 6S because of the headphone jack, lots of long conference calls where my Airpods die and being able to quickly switch to a plug-in headset (while the phone is on a charger!) is such a convenience. If they can have a camera bump for the cameras, why not a little bump for a headset jack???

I've used this adapter [0] for my X with zero complaints.

I got tired of fighting the 3.5mm battle after I broke my 6, plus the new chips in the later series are way faster than the 6 now.

[0]: https://smile.amazon.com/Belkin-Charge-Rockstar-Adapter-Char...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Slartie »

actuator wrote: post #320

I understand the value of the different phone sizes but still can't understand why companies are selling 64 GB models. I know we have everything in the cloud these days but with apps with rich assets and smartphones being more capable with cameras, you run out of 64 GB quite easily. 128 GB should be the baseline model in 2020 for any phone that costs above $600.

A substantial amount of iPhones are purchased by corporations for business reasons. They run one or two corporate apps all the time, which probably don't need much room anyway since such apps are usually designed to sync stuff with some kind of server in order to not have anything on the phone to back up or be lost in the event of a failure. Nobody shoots videos photos with those phones, and nobody puts music or movies on them. They basically need the space for the OS plus a few gigabytes extra; any additional space is wasted and ideally not there in the first place.

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Post by jdofaz »

Nextgrid wrote: post #390
lotsofpulp wrote: post #87

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I don’t see them investing in physical dual sim when the future is e-SIM.

eSIM gives way more control to the carriers which is not a good thing. I can take out a physical SIM, move it to a different phone, bring it abroad, lend it to someone, etc and the carrier has no say in that. With an eSIM, once it's provisioned onto a phone it can't be "extracted" and getting a new one involves the carrier, which can say no or make the process difficult/annoying, even if unintentionally.

I remember $10 ESN change fees, I too do not welcome eSIMs

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Post by wlesieutre »

jkestner wrote: post #467
uxp100 wrote: post #135

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Yes, my touchscreen is behaving strangely now, and I had a battery replacement along the way, but I also got 4 years out of my SE

Just got my wife's original SE its third screen. I freaking love that this product has been around long enough that parts and labor for a new touchscreen are $49.

An even more affordable option is to not break the screen ;)

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Post by vmception »

kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

Funny you say that, I use my X series phones without a case and didn't with my 6

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by jdofaz »

supernova87a wrote: post #164

None of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost. Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pricing of this new data capability?

I'm pretty sure all t-mobile customers automatically have access to 5G, even prepaid.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by wwweston »

pat2man wrote: post #568
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #558

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I'm blown away that 5.4" is "mini". I'd pay decent money for a 4" phone.

The iPhone 4 width was 2.31 inches. The iPhone 12 mini's width is 2.65 inches. It's not insanely bigger.

A third of an inch is definitely enough to affect one-handed reach/operation (ask anyone who's played typical electric vs classical guitars), but it is nice that the mini's part of the lineup, and I might even replace my trusty 5SE with the 12 mini in a year or so, depending on how much performance issues are starting to show for the SE and how annoying/easy audio and other interconnectivity is on the port-handicapped phones.

(Yes, I know, airpod/bluetooth connectivity works well for your use case. No, that doesn't mean it's not inconvenient and maybe even product-choice-driving for other people.)

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by leokennis »

jefftk wrote: post #485

Why is this considered an exemplary shot? https://www.apple.com/v/iphone-12/a/images/overview/camera/s... (first picture under "Automatic magic") The pants look artificial, the hands and feet are really dark, you can't see the detail on the trees. Is this just a really hard angle to shoot, against the summer sky?

Apart from that, it’s just not an aesthetically pleasing photo. Some dude in crocs?
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