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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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I don't know if this has been remarked upon, but I kind of appreciate the diversity in the presentation. It's not showy or contrived; Apple doesn't make a huge deal out of it, but it's nice to see a wide variety of genders and races.

There are only two genders, how wide of a variety can you have?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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MagSafe is really cool, but I'm incredibly disappointed they're sticking with lightning...

There's no point switching from lightning to USB-C now. The MagSafe (should make it just as nice to charge while using the phone) and dropping earpods in the packaging kind of confirms a suspicion I've had that they really, really want to get rid of the port all-together on iPhones. They've switched to USB-C on iPad.. there it makes sense, they're making it more like a laptop. But phones will go all-wireless. Like, t…

Exactly charging by cable is basically out of date now. There's so many wireless charging options for nothing on Amazon, using a cable is the back up option.

The only place I could see this not being the case is in older cars which require plug-in for some features like CarPlay.

But eh, it's an expensive device. An extra cord (also for cheap on Amazon) isn't a big deal.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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post #397

That was actually much more substantial of an upgrade than I previously anticipated. The stronger glass, MagSafe being able to stick your phone magnetically to surfaces, and the Dolby Vision HDR recording are what really got me. Not so much 5G.

The magsafe is really cool but for anyone interested in the wallet accessory just be careful with putting NFC chipped cards there. Paying with Apple Pay from your phone could get confusing.

I tried a few months back to pair down as many cards as I could and just couldn't get under 7 (medical, CC, ID, Fleet Diesel Card, Insurance, etc.)

I don't know how people get it down to 3-4...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

Phablets also fit in the palms of some people’s hands. There’s a surprisingly wide range of human variation in hand size. My larger-limbed friends used to complain about how hard it was to operate dinky candy-bar phones with their large fingers. And today, they’re perfectly happy holding and tapping on a Galaxy S20 Ultra, presuming the display has been scaled up.

Even a 2016 iPhone SE is significantly larger than the candy-bars of yore, though. I have large hands (my hand span, thumb to pinky, measures 26 cm). I have an iPhone 7 for work, and while it does fit in my palm, it does so much less comfortably than my SE. Going even larger is a non-starter.

Yes, there are people with hands large enough that phablets fit in them, but only if you loosen the definition of "fit".

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

> It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself.

Sony was the last one in Android world to offer it to us. Now, even they chickened out.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

You're off by an order of magnitude, because it's a max speed of 4Gbps. Not 4GB/sec. Bits and not bytes.

Your overall point is still valid, though. Most users will get essentially zero benefit from this and data caps or throttling will kick in hilariously quickly.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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True. MagSafe is what got me. Apple is genius in how they keep pushing accessories part of the ecosystem.

They must be really confident with their drop protection because I don't know a single person who doesn't have their phone in a case.

I never use any protection on my iPhones. I find cases ugly and bulky; I want to enjoy the device's feel, design and engineering.

The iPhone 8 with it's full-glass enclosing has been surprisingly sturdy, surviving even rough drops with only a scratch. Plus if it breaks, I get two replacements with AppleCare, and the process is ridiculously smooth.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#549

These transitions are insane. The production quality is honestly fantastic. Apple has perfected the art of virtual keynotes.

It looks impressive, but why does everybody talk in that weird way;"Wow. What an exciting day." It feels so weird and artificial. It actually makes them sound less enthusiastic and genuine to me. They also present a lot of features (especially photos), but without comparison I am left wondering, how much better is the new stuff. And why should I buy it... Sounds great with that new glass too; I wondered if they would…

I kinda don't think Tim was in the theatre. It's much more likely he's match moved and laid over pre-recorded renders. they're not the first tech group I've seen go to full pre-recorded footage like this, it takes _all_ the risk out of a failed demo.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

#550

Interesting factoid from the footnote: iPhone 12 mini has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. iPhone 12 mini is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained.

Same thing about the iPhone 12 Pro Max on its page. I guess that's part of the reason why those two devices go on sale later than their respective counterparts.
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