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iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Keyframe »

kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

What do you mean by product design here? Tbh, I couldn't tell it apart from any other recent phone, let alone iphone.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by jon-wood »

agumonkey wrote: post #394
kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

marketing is absurdly relative and cyclic, smartphone sold you custom icons and wallpapers just like microsoft salesmen did in 82. Now they'll try to make small looks cool again. Wait for the iphone nano with only half a screen and new piezohaptic actuator matrix underneath.

> Wait for the iphone nano with only half a screen and new piezohaptic actuator matrix underneath.

It’s called the Apple Watch.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by dylan604 »

chki wrote: post #49

Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

The demo stated that iOS will only use LTE by default and only kick in to using 5G when it needs it. It will be interesting to see how it makes that decision.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by adolph »

tpmx wrote: post #272
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #144

That was actually much more substantial of an upgrade than I previously anticipated. The stronger glass, MagSafe being able to stick your phone magnetically to surfaces, and the Dolby Vision HDR recording are what really got me. Not so much 5G.

I quite like the return of the iPhone 4 exterior design style.

Me too, although it has two fails:

0. Oval buttons instead of round. In terms of usability a larger target is better, but in terms of design style a loss.

1. It has buttons on both sides so it doesn't have a totally flat side for setting on its edge. Also, the camera sticks out.

Otherwise I appreciate the return to the classic look even if "mini" is still larger than the oversized model 5 body.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by tommyderami »

zionic wrote: post #376
joakleaf wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks impressive, but why does everybody talk in that weird way;"Wow. What an exciting day." It feels so weird and artificial. It actually makes them sound less enthusiastic and genuine to me. They also present a lot of features (especially photos), but without comparison I am left wondering, how much better is the new stuff. And why should I buy it... Sounds great with that new glass too; I wondered if they would…

>but without comparison I am left wondering, how much better is the new stuff When the comparison is 8 vs 10 bit HDR while 99.5+% are watching a crappy SDR youtube feed on SDR panels comparisons literally can't be real.

I believe you can generally just capture a scene with a lot of dynamic range (say a person standing in front of a flat wall with the light falloff ranging from dark to overexposed) and then zoom in on a frame and you'll see more or less banding because of the tough decisions the capture device has to make on what data to throw away/reduce and what to keep

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by tpmx »

adolph wrote: post #504
tpmx wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I quite like the return of the iPhone 4 exterior design style.

Me too, although it has two fails: 0. Oval buttons instead of round. In terms of usability a larger target is better, but in terms of design style a loss. 1. It has buttons on both sides so it doesn't have a totally flat side for setting on its edge. Also, the camera sticks out. Otherwise I appreciate the return to the classic look even if "mini" is still larger than the oversized model 5 body.

Out of these issues,

> Also, the camera sticks out

is the one that bothers me. I loved the iPhone 4/5 "uniblock" feeling.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by adolph »

jeroen wrote: post #292
Amorymeltzer wrote: post #178

Of note: the iPhone 12 mini appears to be slightly smaller and lighter than the (current) iPhone SE (2), so is basically the phone those of us who prefer phone-sized phones have been asking for for years. The price differential of $300 seems reasonable (in Apple-adjusted numbers); if I hadn't bought an SE this past month (unfortunate toddler-related water incident!) then I'd be right in there.

Smaller than the 2nd SE, a bit larger than the 1st one: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?device1=iphoneSE&devic...

Is the depth measure with or without the camera bump? I was not expecting it to be .2mm thinner than SE (1).

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by zepto »

centimeter wrote: post #480
flixic wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is tearing me apart between Mini’s size and Pro Max camera.

The way I avoid stressing about this is by realizing that the iPhone camera is still way worse than a real dedicated camera with a large optical path (lens and sensor). If you care about good photos, the Pro Max won't get you that far in the grand scheme of things.

How do you know?
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