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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by kempbellt »

robbyking wrote: post #304
threatofrain wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an iPhone 5 advertisement about that exact feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0gtsjfy7E

I think I'm the only person who likes iOS's reachability gesture. The only annoying thing about it is sometimes it will trigger touchUpInside for buttons along the bottom of the screen, navigating me away from the screen I was on.

I may be the only person who has never taken the time to figure out how to intentionally call the reachability feature. I just know that sometimes everything shifts down on the screen and it has never been on purpose, and then I have to figure out how to undo it - usually by turning the screen off and back on.

I am on the 11 (I think? I've lost track, but its the one with three cameras), and the screen is slightly too large for easy one-handed use, at least in my case. I might opt for the mini if/when I decided to get a new phone, but throwing $1000 at a new toy just because it's slightly more comfortable in my hand feels like a very "first-world" solution to a not-really-problem. None of the other features this phone comes with feel like they bring any extra value to my life or warrant an upgrade.

But hey, newer, faster chips mean it can probably run Doom now, right?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Nition »

EGreg wrote: post #454
kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

But how big is it??? I waited years to get the SE2 and it turned out to be the size of iPhone 8. The same iPhone 8 that introduced the double-tap to fix the “thumb reach problem” which Apple usd to proudly tout for the ORIGINAL iPhone 5 and SE. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6K3lTwGxMTk

The original iPhone SE (same size as the iPhone 5) would have about a 5" screen if it was edge-to-edge[1], and this is 5.4", so probably larger than the old SE and smaller than the new SE.

[1] An old diagram I made: https://i.imgur.com/OKZiWrN.png

Edit, confirmed here: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?device1=iphoneSE&devic...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by cromwellian »

simonh wrote: post #465
forrestthewoods wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple resisted phablets for years. When they finally released their first “plus” sized phone sales were through the roof. In absolute numbers there’s a good market for “mini” (or smaller) phones. But relatively speaking it’s a niche. The market has spoken! But fortunately the market is literally billions of smartphone users so there’s a lot of room for variety.

Apple simply prioritised pixel density over screen size. Once they’d gone to retina resolution displays, they didn’t want to drop the resolution to make a bigger phone and still have good performance and battery life. Bear in mind the 6+ was actually a bit under powered for its screen. While overall it was acceptably performant, mine noticeably lagged compared to a 6 in graphically intensive applications, so they did…

That’s the excuse they gave, but large android phones with retina or greater density had been shipping for ages before Apple.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by forrestthewoods »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #396
forrestthewoods wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple resisted phablets for years. When they finally released their first “plus” sized phone sales were through the roof. In absolute numbers there’s a good market for “mini” (or smaller) phones. But relatively speaking it’s a niche. The market has spoken! But fortunately the market is literally billions of smartphone users so there’s a lot of room for variety.

"relatively speaking it's a niche" It's equally as ridiculous to say "small phones are a niche" in 2019 when nobody was selling small phones, as it was to say "phablets are a niche" in 2013 when Apple wasn't selling a big phone. I would bet that the Mini will be a runaway bestseller.

> I would bet that the Mini will be a runaway bestseller.

Sure. How would you like to define your bet? And how much do you wish to wager?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by matthewmacleod »

dmix wrote: post #461

Any new developments around their U1 chip (ultra-wide-band radio currently used by AirDrop and Find My)? I remember reading it was building up to releasing a Tile-like product called AirTags for finding lost devices: [Note: couldnt make it through the whole video, so just curious] https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/news/apple/149336-how-app... https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/apple/149277-apple-...

It's included in the new HomePod thing, and there was a very brief demo of someone bringing a phone close to the device and the phone showing the current song that it was playing, apparently using that technology.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by jonplackett »

christoph wrote: post #60

They're bringing back MagSafe for iPhone... can we have it back for the laptops please?

It's pretty dumb to call it magsafe. With a laptop it really did keep your laptop safe from getting pulled off a desk when you got up to get a coffee and walked through the cord like an idiot.

What exactly is 'safe' about this? It's just... mag.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by mortenjorck »

robbyking wrote: post #304
threatofrain wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an iPhone 5 advertisement about that exact feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0gtsjfy7E

I think I'm the only person who likes iOS's reachability gesture. The only annoying thing about it is sometimes it will trigger touchUpInside for buttons along the bottom of the screen, navigating me away from the screen I was on.

Reachability has come a long way, too. On TouchID phones, it was always fiddly, double-touching (but not pressing) the home button, but the gesture that replaced it on FaceID devices feels natural. I was originally apprehensive about moving to a larger phone yet again after the iPhone 6, but it has more or less made "big phones" a non-issue for me.

There are one or two apps I use that seem to reliably have the touchUpInside issue you describe, so I wonder if it's down to their implementation. The Redfin app in particular is terrible with this.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by centimeter »

flixic wrote: post #149
burlesona wrote: post #136

The mini is the best thing I’ve seen in a while. Fans of smaller phones everywhere are rejoicing. I just wish they’d give iPad the same treatment and make a Pro in a Mini size :)

Apple is tearing me apart between Mini’s size and Pro Max camera.

The way I avoid stressing about this is by realizing that the iPhone camera is still way worse than a real dedicated camera with a large optical path (lens and sensor). If you care about good photos, the Pro Max won't get you that far in the grand scheme of things.
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