So now, a $1k iPhone comes standard with LiDAR sensors - but Musk still claims they're too expensive and cumbersome to use in self driving vehicles that cost over $40k. Maybe someone will be eating crow tonight.
iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro
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#452Not entirely true , e.g. they can't play fortnite or other unreal-based games
Among Covid, uncertainty, and people moving, i m not sure it's the best time to present their most expensive phone, esp. now that comparable phones are half the price. 5G is exciting? hm most people use their phones in crappy wifi for years, plus it's not like apple built the 5G infrastrucutre. (plus there's noone to show off to at this time)
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#453These transitions are insane. The production quality is honestly fantastic. Apple has perfected the art of virtual keynotes.
It looks impressive, but why does everybody talk in that weird way;"Wow. What an exciting day." It feels so weird and artificial. It actually makes them sound less enthusiastic and genuine to me. They also present a lot of features (especially photos), but without comparison I am left wondering, how much better is the new stuff. And why should I buy it... Sounds great with that new glass too; I wondered if they would…
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#454"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…
I waited years to get the SE2 and it turned out to be the size of iPhone 8. The same iPhone 8 that introduced the double-tap to fix the “thumb reach problem” which Apple usd to proudly tout for the ORIGINAL iPhone 5 and SE.
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#455Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?
There was a lot of talk about how the number of sensors on autonomous vehicles meant many gigabytes of data per minute would be produced and transmitted by 5G back to servers to help train the systems. I'm not sure if I actually believe that, but that's certainly what people were claiming.
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#456It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…
Data is included in my contract where I live - is that not the case where you live?
> If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point?
To get the same data... faster? Isn't that good? And is your data limited in some way? I never ever reach my limit no matter what I do.
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#457Zero photos where you can actually see how thick the bezels are on the 12 Pro's product page. Guess it's safe to assume it'll be pretty disappointing considering how much they talked about thinner bezels.
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#458Is 5G rollout in the US really comprehensive enough at this point to deliver on any of the promises they're making about it at this event? [Edit: found this benchmark from a month ago: https://www.tomsguide.com/features/5g-vs-4g ] basically looks like Verizon delivers on the promised speeds, but it still isn't clear to me what the spatial distribution of the higher speeds looks like.
I live in a midwest city with a population around 25,000. We won't see 5G for a long, long time. We need signal that goes farther, not faster. 4G is still being rolled out to more rural areas. 5G is a feature I'd rather not pay for.
5G can potentially help with that when deployed on existing spectrum, because increased transmission rates reduces airtime utilization, and some cells adjust their range based on utilization. It might not help much, depending on current utilization and terrain and what not, but it'll probably help some, and I imagine carriers will do gradual deployments of that to lower density areas when there's enough handsets that support it and base station equipment is cost reduced enough. I don't think it's going to be fast, but I don't think it'll be on the long, long time scale.
Of course, 5G on the new high frequency spectrum is unlikely to be useful in low density areas, and is unlikely to be deployed. Also, I think AT&T has plans to declare their LTE coverage to be 5G :P
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#459It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…
Most of the time you hit soft caps at 40gb, with 4gbp you can hit your cap in 40 seconds !
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#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's an iPhone 5 advertisement about that exact feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0gtsjfy7E
I think I'm the only person who likes iOS's reachability gesture. The only annoying thing about it is sometimes it will trigger touchUpInside for buttons along the bottom of the screen, navigating me away from the screen I was on.
I realize that research shows people use bigger phones more, but I'm the odd one out. I've been on the X, and it is too big. I use my phone far less than I did when they were smaller. It is just awkward and annoying.
I'll have to hold the Mini to see if it is small enough to actually make a difference, I might actually buy a new phone before the old one croaks.
The 4 was the best them, in my opinion.