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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by WA » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:18 PM UTC

illuminati1911 wrote: post #217

supernova87a wrote: post #152

It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…

The whole 5G thing is just complete bullshit. After the tech has flopped pretty much worldwide and Verizon's and AT&T's "5G REMOTE SURGERY" and "RACE TO 5G" marketing bs didn't get consumers interested, they finally decided as a last resort to pay Apple and see if that will be enough to push this technology through.

What’s the point of 5G when I don’t even have LTE in many rural areas? I’d rather have LTE everywhere than a faster download rate when in a city but not at home.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by fomine3 » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:18 PM UTC

mikkelam wrote: post #167

Wow, the mini is only 7.7mm larger than the 2016 iPhone SE. Apple actually listened and made new powerful compact sized iPhone. Too bad i recently dropped my 2016 SE and got the new SE which sucks..

You've got covid-proof iPhone SE.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by agumonkey » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:18 PM UTC

forrestthewoods wrote: post #339

kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

Apple resisted phablets for years. When they finally released their first “plus” sized phone sales were through the roof. In absolute numbers there’s a good market for “mini” (or smaller) phones. But relatively speaking it’s a niche. The market has spoken! But fortunately the market is literally billions of smartphone users so there’s a lot of room for variety.

I think the phablet thing was a fad, people were happy to see more but I've heard a lot of people say they miss tiny too now that they've tried.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by pazimzadeh » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:19 PM UTC

I'm finally going to upgrade from my original SE. It's not as small as I'd like, but I think it will keep its value well if they do come out with the nano in the spring along with a new watch mini/nano.

It's looking like it was a battery issue all along, but once these magnetic chargers become common, that won't matter. It's perfect for mounting an iPhone in the car too.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by gnicholas » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:20 PM UTC

supernova87a wrote: post #152

It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…

I called AT&T to look into their service, and the rep said "all of our plans are unlimited data, it's just a question of how much you want to be able to hotspot". I can see why they're reframing things to call all their plans 'unlimited' in a 5G world, since most people will not sign up to pay more for 5G service. They will ask what the real-world difference will be, and then probably decline to pay even $10/mo more for it.

But if everything is 'unlimited' and they're differentiating based on amount of hotspot or throttling after a certain point, they're effectively charging you for high speed without making it seem like a surcharge.

After 20 seconds on the phone I knew it wasn't for me. I rarely leave the house during COVID, so I hardly use any data. I'm saving 50% going with a different company.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by conductr » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:20 PM UTC

robbyking wrote: post #304

threatofrain wrote: post #106

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Here's an iPhone 5 advertisement about that exact feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0gtsjfy7E

I think I'm the only person who likes iOS's reachability gesture. The only annoying thing about it is sometimes it will trigger touchUpInside for buttons along the bottom of the screen, navigating me away from the screen I was on.

I forget about it when I need it and it gets in my way when I don’t. It’s a good feature though I just haven’t worked into my flow.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by chorsestudios » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:21 PM UTC

Alupis wrote: post #431

So now, a $1k iPhone comes standard with LiDAR sensors - but Musk still claims they're too expensive and cumbersome to use in self driving vehicles that cost over $40k. Maybe someone will be eating crow tonight.

The LIDAR sensors used in vehicles are specialized for a different purpose and are expensive. Its not a very fair comparison to an iPhone LIDAR sensor

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by offtop5 » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:21 PM UTC

supernova87a wrote: post #152

It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…

Most of the time you hit soft caps at 40gb, with 4gbp you can hit your cap in 40 seconds !

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by bluedino » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:21 PM UTC

jaywalk wrote: post #318

cbsks wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My big question is... does the new "Ceramic Shield" mean that I won't need a screen protector anymore?

You haven't needed a screen protector in a long time.

I actually scratched my iPhone 8 a few weeks ago (using the light on my phone while working under my car...my fault). I've never scratched an iPhone (or used a screen protector) since the 4S.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by snazz » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 7:22 PM UTC

WA wrote: post #441

illuminati1911 wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole 5G thing is just complete bullshit. After the tech has flopped pretty much worldwide and Verizon's and AT&T's "5G REMOTE SURGERY" and "RACE TO 5G" marketing bs didn't get consumers interested, they finally decided as a last resort to pay Apple and see if that will be enough to push this technology through.

What’s the point of 5G when I don’t even have LTE in many rural areas? I’d rather have LTE everywhere than a faster download rate when in a city but not at home.

Cell carriers try to optimize for places with the highest population densities, so they focus on faster speeds in cities over slower speeds everywhere. It's a fine balance.