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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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True. MagSafe is what got me. Apple is genius in how they keep pushing accessories part of the ecosystem.

They must be really confident with their drop protection because I don't know a single person who doesn't have their phone in a case.

I'll add to the anecdotes: my iPhone 6 plus has no case, and looks like it was pulled out of a box a few hours ago. I don't understand the whole case universe/how people can drop their expensive phones so consistently.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…

The whole 5G thing is just complete bullshit. After the tech has flopped pretty much worldwide and Verizon's and AT&T's "5G REMOTE SURGERY" and "RACE TO 5G" marketing bs didn't get consumers interested, they finally decided as a last resort to pay Apple and see if that will be enough to push this technology through.

disagree, sort of. The marketing was always shit, but the 2 big differences between LTE and 5G are latency and cell size.

Cell size matters because there is a ceiling for how many devices an LTE cell can support in a certain range. Thats why you get crappy speeds/connectivity’s at concerts/events/crowded areas. As I understand it, 5g can support more devices per cell, and also can have smaller cells for more connection density. With latency, LTE has a baked in 300ms min latency that 5g does not, so 5g can be used for latency sensitive applications.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Zero photos where you can actually see how thick the bezels are on the 12 Pro's product page. Guess it's safe to assume it'll be pretty disappointing considering how much they talked about thinner bezels.

I HATE thin bezels. I actually returned my Galaxy S10 because palm-misclicks dove me crazy. After 19 days of practice and different grips, random clicks didn't get any better.

Would thicker case help this problem?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

marketing is absurdly relative and cyclic, smartphone sold you custom icons and wallpapers just like microsoft salesmen did in 82. Now they'll try to make small looks cool again. Wait for the iphone nano with only half a screen and new piezohaptic actuator matrix underneath.

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>Across the iPhone family, we’re removing the power adapter and EarPods that often go unused, but including the fast-charging USB‑C to Lightning cable that most people need. That shrinks packaging, and more boxes per shipment means fewer shipments overall. We’re also transitioning our manufacturing partners to renewable energy. Altogether, this eliminates over 2 million metric tons of carbon emissions annually. Looks…

I sure hope not. Unlike most people, I upgrade my phone in 3-4 years, so by that time even my adaptor is worn out. I would not wish to spend more for one if I don't get any reduction in phone price.

I have never had or heard of a USB wall plug adapter "wearing" out in over a decade. How vigorously and/or frequently must one plug and unplug to cause this?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

Apple resisted phablets for years. When they finally released their first “plus” sized phone sales were through the roof. In absolute numbers there’s a good market for “mini” (or smaller) phones. But relatively speaking it’s a niche. The market has spoken! But fortunately the market is literally billions of smartphone users so there’s a lot of room for variety.

"relatively speaking it's a niche"

It's equally as ridiculous to say "small phones are a niche" in 2019 when nobody was selling small phones, as it was to say "phablets are a niche" in 2013 when Apple wasn't selling a big phone.

I would bet that the Mini will be a runaway bestseller.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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That was actually much more substantial of an upgrade than I previously anticipated. The stronger glass, MagSafe being able to stick your phone magnetically to surfaces, and the Dolby Vision HDR recording are what really got me. Not so much 5G.

The magsafe is really cool but for anyone interested in the wallet accessory just be careful with putting NFC chipped cards there. Paying with Apple Pay from your phone could get confusing.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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What I'm really hoping is that MagSafe finally fulfills my dream of having a secure magnetically-attached wireless charging point in a car. Accessories to this effect theoretically exist already, but they all suck.

They very briefly mentioned a 3rd party one that will do exactly that!

Grabbed a screenshot - It's a Belkin product under design but not on sale yet:

https://i.imgur.com/k2Bqhsp.png

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…

I had the misfortune of charging my iPhone via usb connected to my laptop while working. This triggered the 4G tethering, so i spent an afternoon working on my cellular data plan... schlepping multi-gb csv files around. I didn't even notice anything, until my data plan ran out. I honestly wouldn't mind slower than 4G speeds. With 4G it's already bordering on ridiculous how quickly you can burn up a data plan.

Surely 5G can only make sense on an unlimited plan.

Or the limits are going to have to become ridiculously big. You could burn a 30G/month limit in 10 seconds in “ideal conditions”.

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