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The ballooning money supply may be the key to unlocking inflation in the U.S.

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Re: The ballooning money supply may be the key to unlocking inflation in the U.S.

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I mean, to some degree I'm not sure how much it matters. If there's some delayed response to the asset inflation then it'll be concerning, but why are inflated asset prices an issues in and of themselves?

It means that if you don't already own those assets, then you have no hope of ever owning said assets.

No you just need to be ingenuitive and solve a problem the world needs solving. Look at Jeff Bezos 30 years ago.

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The people who continue to jumble up inflation by its consumer defenition with the huge expanding of the amount of us dollars are only shooting their own wealth and anyone who listens to them's wealth in the foot. All you have to look at is stocks and home real estate to see that assets are ballooning no matter how cheap a dozen of eggs stays.

Well, for stocks, the P/E ratio is also extraordinarily high, so it's not inflation there. At least not mostly. The stock market is just overvalued and there will be a correction at some point in the future.

I think a big part of the runup of stocks has been the low interest rates.

That is: I've got some money to invest. As far as rate of return goes, a stock at a P/E of 10 is about the same as a bond paying 10% interest. (Yes, the stock can go up in price. It can also go down. And so can the bond - when interest rates change, bond prices change. But stock prices factor in expectations of future earnings changes, which bond prices usually don't.)

Now bonds are only paying 4%. That stock P/E of 10 looks really good - so good that people keep buying it, and the price keeps going up, until the P/E is more like 25, which puts it back at approximately the same yield as bonds.

Re: The ballooning money supply may be the key to unlocking inflation in the U.S.

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The Fed has confused inflation with the change in price of consumer goods, but this has led them to all sorts of flawed thinking.

In my view, inflation IS the debasement of the currency.

One would typically expect consumer prices to change when the currency is debased but when you literally define it as such you give yourself all sorts of additional levers to pull that distort the true situation.

For instance technology fundamentally drives down the price of goods. Have I reduced inflation by improving technology?

Offshoring manufacturing to get cheaper labor reduces the price of consumer goods. Have I increased the soundness of the money by doing so?

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I don't know why you'd say tech stocks (where volatility is high) but land and safe equities are the traditional hedges yes.

They said bluechip tech stocks. Companies that have been around for decades and aren't going anywhere. Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Intel, etc.

They could go also back where they were a year ago and lose half your money. Then enjoy a lost decade of no recovery as the US piles up Japan-style debt. Not making a prediction, just saying what goes up fast can also come down just as fast. For less narrow stock choices, there's whole index funds, both domestic and international. Also bond funds.

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The fed has pumped 2.3 trillion dollars into the economy in the past six weeks.... I don't see how the dollar won't crash eventually. Why would foreign countries still buy US bonds?

Because the alternatives are even worse. Anyone with money is still better off buying US bonds knowing that the euro or the renminbi or even physical assets like gold are even more volatile.

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People keep predicting inflation, but it remains stubbornly below the Fed's target rate of 2%, which is itself low compared to 20th century averages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Consumer_Price_I...

The people who continue to jumble up inflation by its consumer defenition with the huge expanding of the amount of us dollars are only shooting their own wealth and anyone who listens to them's wealth in the foot. All you have to look at is stocks and home real estate to see that assets are ballooning no matter how cheap a dozen of eggs stays.

Consumer inflation actually is inflation, by definition. This isn't being confused, this is understanding how inflation is defined and using terms correctly.

Inflation is about the prices people actually pay, on average. Your neighbor's house getting sold for a lot of money isn't a real cost to you like rent. Someone paid that price, but they are not necessarily typical.

Inflation does include rent (or "imputed rent") to the extent that people actually pay those prices on average. Some people really do pay higher rents, but many others have lower housing costs locked in via home ownership or rent control, and they count too, so this is going to drag down the average. That's just the nature of averages.

BTW, stock market indexes are an average too, and it's heavily weighted towards tech firms due to market capitalization. Only about half of the stocks in the S&P 500 are up for the year.

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I mean, to some degree I'm not sure how much it matters. If there's some delayed response to the asset inflation then it'll be concerning, but why are inflated asset prices an issues in and of themselves?

Inflated asset prices means most folks are never going to be able to purchase a home, and equities (which generates wealth with no further effort besides the capital invested, for the most part) will continue to be owned by the wealthiest. Inequality worsens when asset prices increase faster than wages.

This doesn't check out to me (well, the home part does, but I'm not sure we've seen significantly above normal growth there compared to historical norms, outside of hot coastal markets), but for other assets the price doesn't matter, as you can just get a fraction of them or they're split.

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Is anyone (who is paid/lives in the US) concerned about the future value of USD? A lot of my friends are saying I should be investing in cryptocurrencies for future safety, but I don't see those as very stable, so I'm hesitant to put my savings into it.

If you're concerned about the USD and you want a low-risk way to invest your money, you could invest in a basket of foreign bond funds: https://investor.vanguard.com/mutual-funds/profile/portfolio...

Re: The ballooning money supply may be the key to unlocking inflation in the U.S.

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It means that if you don't already own those assets, then you have no hope of ever owning said assets.

No you just need to be ingenuitive and solve a problem the world needs solving. Look at Jeff Bezos 30 years ago.

To buy a house, just start one of the largest companies in history. Easy-peasy.

Re: The ballooning money supply may be the key to unlocking inflation in the U.S.

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People keep predicting inflation, but it remains stubbornly below the Fed's target rate of 2%, which is itself low compared to 20th century averages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Consumer_Price_I...

Why would this money increase inflation? It wasn't earmarked for consumer spending in the first place.

That's literally how they define inflation, so money earmarked for consumer goods is the most likely to "cause inflation" by the Feds definition
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