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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Actually, that MagSafe is really cool. The fact that you can basically stick your iPhone anywhere magnetically is awesome.

Even though "Android had it X years ago" is mostly a meme by now, I can't resist: The Nexus 5 had magnets that automatically aligned it on a Qi charging dock 7 years ago.

Here's an even easier one, Apple had them as early as 2006! But then pulled them, even though everyone loved them... and now are reintroducing it as new

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Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

The next big JavaScript framework. The original iPhone was 2.5G and could load webpages just fine. But when a modern iPhone only has a 2.5G connection, it’s useless. All we need to make 5G critical is for webpages to start being 500+ MB for basic text plus all the associated ads, trackers, and other important features.

> All we need to make 5G critical is for webpages to start being 500+ MB for basic text

I see you've never used GitHub before.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…

I had the misfortune of charging my iPhone via usb connected to my laptop while working. This triggered the 4G tethering, so i spent an afternoon working on my cellular data plan... schlepping multi-gb csv files around. I didn't even notice anything, until my data plan ran out.

I honestly wouldn't mind slower than 4G speeds. With 4G it's already bordering on ridiculous how quickly you can burn up a data plan.

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Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

The theory here is nice, but who here on HN does actually get good unthrottled speeds on 4G now? Will carriers just magically stop throttling 5G after they sell it?

A few days ago I downloaded a 4.8GB MacOS update over a 4G connection. That took 25 minutes, which is an average of 3.2 MB/s. My provider claims 30 Mbit/s, so that is pretty reasonable.

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It's not the start of a massive shift. You'd be surprised what the gaming spending per platform breakdown looks like - phones are a MASSIVE chunk, and growing by far the fastest. I don't have the numbers on me to back this up but maybe someone else can fetch them.

The rule of thumb when it comes to sizing gaming audiences is: - Mobile: Billions - Console: 100s of millions - PC: 10s of millions In other words, a decent mobile game (not Fortnite or LoL, but something like Among Us) can get 100s of millions of users, a good console game can sells 10s of millions of copies and a PC game can sell millions of copies.

10's of millions of PC gamers? I think you're off by a huge margin. I believe DFC reported that there's over a billion PC gamers in the world in 2020. It's a billion dollar market in itself.

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I quite like the return of the iPhone 4 exterior design style.

I'd say that's regressing yes? When you can't find the road to the future, retreat to the past. Re-live the glory days so to speak.

In a way, yeah, definitely. Perhaps it's a bad sign for Apple, but good for consumers. It's a solid (and imho beautiful) design that works really well mechanically (iirc).

I'm treading into parts I don't know very well here, so treat this as a question: Is this perhaps a part of the de-Ive-ification process?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Zero photos where you can actually see how thick the bezels are on the 12 Pro's product page. Guess it's safe to assume it'll be pretty disappointing considering how much they talked about thinner bezels.

At a certain point, does the bezel thickness matter anymore? Surely not to me.

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The whole 5G thing is just complete bullshit. After the tech has flopped pretty much worldwide and Verizon's and AT&T's "5G REMOTE SURGERY" and "RACE TO 5G" marketing bs didn't get consumers interested, they finally decided as a last resort to pay Apple and see if that will be enough to push this technology through.

Wait till you start seeing health risks increase with more exposure to 5G radiation, now it's in your pocket.

Once we see them we can investigate them and adjust our understanding of RF's health effects and modify the technology to make sure it's safe.

So far nobody has proven that the RF frequencies & transmit powers used in 5G (or any other wireless networking technology, for that matter) are harmful.

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Wireless charging... Now with a bulky connector that attaches itself to the phone using magnets! Did we just innovate ourselves all the way back to Magsafe that laptops (used to) have since 2006?

Well, Magsafe was not wireless but you do raise an existing point. That the iPhone could have magnets and pogo pins and have fast charging without needing it to be wireless, thus saving the weight of the charging coil and saving the energy lost as heat.
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