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Apple's putting me in a tough position here. My XS still works like new, but the Mini is basically my ideal form-factor.

Same, it looks awesome but I'm thinking I might hold out a year for a 12s Mini or whatever they will call it.

Maybe 5G will be more compelling in a year.

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"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

Believe it or not the 'mini' used to the the standard smartphone size. As it goes in America, bigger = better so that is what you get.

Believe it or not there was a real reason for bigger phones. They realized that most people still couldn't single handle the standard size smartphone, so if the majority of the population was going to have to use two hands the phone makers may as well jack the size up as much as possible to take advantage of the larger battery size and additional features.

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"Across the iPhone family, we’re removing the power adapter and EarPods that often go unused, but including the fast-charging USB‑C to Lightning cable that most people need." Ouch. Do most people really not use the power adapter?

Calculated to help them sell the fast chargers. Until now, every iPhone came with USB-A chargers so yes people have a lot of them, but they are allll USB-A.

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I really hope that we come back to this comment in 10 years and it's weird that this was ever a concern (like what happened with texting/voice)

Well, I hope so too! But it's in the intermediate stage when things are scarce that the price matters, or rate-limiting/throttling/etc matters. You go to South Korea, and they would laugh to think that the US has monthly bandwidth limits, or is talking about net neutrality. Speed and pipe size take care of all issues some distant day in the future. Yet here we are, living in the past.

South Korea doesn’t have net neutrality and is more oligopolistic than the US

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That was actually much more substantial of an upgrade than I previously anticipated. The stronger glass, MagSafe being able to stick your phone magnetically to surfaces, and the Dolby Vision HDR recording are what really got me. Not so much 5G.

What I'm really hoping is that MagSafe finally fulfills my dream of having a secure magnetically-attached wireless charging point in a car. Accessories to this effect theoretically exist already, but they all suck.

They very briefly mentioned a 3rd party one that will do exactly that!

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Believe it or not the 'mini' used to the the standard smartphone size. As it goes in America, bigger = better so that is what you get.

As it goes in America, bigger = better so that is what you get. The bigger phone trend actually started in Korea, and spread to China. It was several years before large phones came to the United States.

Several years and lots of whining about wanting bigger screens. Still wish there was something the size of the original SE.

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That was actually much more substantial of an upgrade than I previously anticipated. The stronger glass, MagSafe being able to stick your phone magnetically to surfaces, and the Dolby Vision HDR recording are what really got me. Not so much 5G.

I quite like the return of the iPhone 4 exterior design style.

I'd say that's regressing yes? When you can't find the road to the future, retreat to the past. Re-live the glory days so to speak.

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True. MagSafe is what got me. Apple is genius in how they keep pushing accessories part of the ecosystem.

They must be really confident with their drop protection because I don't know a single person who doesn't have their phone in a case.

I never use cases.

From the old indestructible Nokias, passing through a Sony Ericsson, a Nokia Windows Phone, and then the Moto G4. Until my previous phone.

My previous phone was a Moto G6, with glass in the back. In the second day, it fell from my lap and the back-glass broke completely, but stood in place with glass dust all over. I had to use a case (that is shipped with the phone, probably predicting this). I was pissed, always hated. All of that because of a useless aesthetic product decision.

Then I bought the latest iPhone SE, my first iPhone ever. I use it without a case and it fell, from various heights, probably more than 30 times now. The screen is intact, just a few scratches in the corners. I am pretty happy about it.

Edit: just in case anyone wants to know, I don’t like cases solely because it makes the phone larger. The “how easily and comfortably it fits in my pockets” is my main criteria. I don’t care about aesthetics much, consequently I also don’t care if my phone has scratches on its sides. That’s one reason I changed to the iPhone SE (small phone + great chip + privacy considerations). I would only ever consider buying the iPhone Mini out of these iPhone 12 line.

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You realize the lidar distance for a car would be entirely different. It's a way different beast.

The price of a car is 35x the price of a phone. Does the cost of the LIDAR scale up 35x when going from phone distances to car distances? That is an honest question that I don't know the answer to.

No, it's more than a factor of 300 price difference for the big lidars currently used on cars versus what that thing'd cost. The big spinning mirrors in the car lidar really bring the price up.
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