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LIDAR: Cheap enough for a $999 phone but too expensive for a $35,000 car.

You realize the lidar distance for a car would be entirely different. It's a way different beast.

The price of a car is 35x the price of a phone. Does the cost of the LIDAR scale up 35x when going from phone distances to car distances? That is an honest question that I don't know the answer to.

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That was actually much more substantial of an upgrade than I previously anticipated. The stronger glass, MagSafe being able to stick your phone magnetically to surfaces, and the Dolby Vision HDR recording are what really got me. Not so much 5G.

MagSafe is really cool, but I'm incredibly disappointed they're sticking with lightning...

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Is 5G rollout in the US really comprehensive enough at this point to deliver on any of the promises they're making about it at this event? [Edit: found this benchmark from a month ago: https://www.tomsguide.com/features/5g-vs-4g ] basically looks like Verizon delivers on the promised speeds, but it still isn't clear to me what the spatial distribution of the higher speeds looks like.

Are the speeds really that important or are they already good enough? Any time I try to do something substantial over cellular I wish for either better coverage or lower latencies (oh, the latencies... even with great signal strength)

on TMO, 5G speeds are basically the same as 4G but I've that the 5G is actually a bit more pervasive

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The most disappointing aspect to me is that the difference between the Pro and the Pro Max is no longer just the size. I'm quite fond of the size of my 11 Pro and I don't really want to be upsold to the Pro Max if I want the best.

It has been a lost opportunity not to take advantage of the extra size to improve the the features for the max.

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Wow, the mini is only 7.7mm larger than the 2016 iPhone SE. Apple actually listened and made new powerful compact sized iPhone. Too bad i recently dropped my 2016 SE and got the new SE which sucks..

I am curious, what are your complaints about the new SE? I have a 2016 SE and am going to upgrade to either the 2020 SE, 12 mini, or 12. The 2016 SE feels a bit small in my hand (I have large hands), but I worry the iPhone 12 regular size will be too large.

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"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

Believe it or not the 'mini' used to the the standard smartphone size. As it goes in America, bigger = better so that is what you get.

As it goes in America, bigger = better so that is what you get.

The bigger phone trend actually started in Korea, and spread to China. It was several years before large phones came to the United States.

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It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…

Hey, there are iPhone users not only in US, but also in countries with cheap data plans!

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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It's the annual incremental improvement, and many will like the smaller form factor too I'm guessing. But the whole 5G hype is lost on me. Specifically, none of the carriers or handset makers are telling me how much the data will cost . Maybe I'm a little price-focused, but that determines for me whether I'm excited about it. If I'm just burning through my existing data limit faster, what's the point? What's the pric…

The whole 5G thing is just complete bullshit. After the tech has flopped pretty much worldwide and Verizon's and AT&T's "5G REMOTE SURGERY" and "RACE TO 5G" marketing bs didn't get consumers interested, they finally decided as a last resort to pay Apple and see if that will be enough to push this technology through.

Negative.

It will be a slower rollout due to the costs and infrastructure requirements, but 5g (from Verizon at least) will be faster than your home cable connection. That's a big deal.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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The most disappointing aspect to me is that the difference between the Pro and the Pro Max is no longer just the size. I'm quite fond of the size of my 11 Pro and I don't really want to be upsold to the Pro Max if I want the best.

Hasn't it always been the case that the Pro Max has a better camera package?

Ah I see now, the only difference was screen size
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