When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook • Hacker News Board

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by nanis » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:52 PM UTC

s_fischer wrote: post #101

robertlagrant wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you chiding someone for knowing and communicating their confusion and assumptions? When someone is already communicating enough self-awareness to obviate that, either contribute clarifying information or say nothing.

I think the problem is that the OP did not stop at "I am confused, can someone explain this discrepancy to me?" They went on to make seemingly unconfused assumptions that the translator must have misspelled his own name in an article about misspelling names.

The reason for my assumption is the explicit statement:

> The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger ...

which seems to imply pretty unambiguously that using "D" is incorrect. Assuming that all the information I have is what is contained in the article, this is confusing.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by oh_sigh » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:52 PM UTC

randallsquared wrote: post #84

hnarn wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A friend of mine had his FB acount blocked for failing to provide a real name (his last name is "Fun") Don't they have a process where you can submit a government ID and have your name accepted? Honestly I don't blame the minimum wage person responsible for name screening for flagging a name that is both uncommon and one of the most common adjectives in the English language, if the policy is that fake names aren't…

> I don't blame the minimum wage person responsible for name screening My expectation is that the person who wrote the code responsible for rejecting my name in the mid-to-late 2000s was paid somewhat more than minimum wage.

I think OP was talking about the support staff using the system that the highly paid engineers wrote.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by Yhippa » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:53 PM UTC

jiuahweruihawi wrote: post #91

louwrentius wrote: post #33

I think if you work at Facebook, I wonder how you can live with yourself, helping to make the world a worse place. Having worked at Facebook should make you a paria, nobody should hire you. Facebook should be a stain on your resume.

I've long viewed working for Facebook (or Twitter) as like working for a cigarette company. Your product makes the world a worse place and everything would be better if your company disappeared, but hey, something's gotta pay the rent I guess?

"If it wasn't Facebook it would be another company"

"Facebook isn't the problem, human beings are the problem, and they just expose it"

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by jdmichal » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:54 PM UTC

Xelbair wrote: post #111

capableweb wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not so weird when you consider the context. Zoom is an North American company with most (if not all) of it's product/engineering development happening in China. Just reading public information, it seems they have no development teams in the North of Europe nor Eastern Europe, so it's only natural that some character sets ends up better supported than others.

Yeah, that would work as an excuse back in ANSI days. we have UTF8 as a standard nowadays.

Unicode doesn't magically make this stuff go away, much less any specific encoding of it. A glyph can consist of multiple codepoints, and then those can sometimes be standardized to other codepoints. For instance, Unicode has codepoint U+00C4 for an A with a diaeresis (aka umlaut). But it also has codepoints U+0041 U+0308 for an A with a combining diaeresis, which should then map to the combined U+00C4 for font rendering.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by blunte » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:56 PM UTC

marricks wrote: post #146

jdofaz wrote: post #138

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I tried that for a while, I would go months without logging in, but for one reason or another I would log in to check something. The last time I did this my news feed left me feeling so negative I decided that I was done and I deleted my account. So far it has been easier to say "I don't have a facebook account" than to explain why I never post anything or answer did you see what I posted questions.

I really wonder why anyone advocates "not logging in" and if it's ever in good faith? Something always drags you back and it's just a quick step to get sucked in again. I tried to use it less and it just never worked, FB pays billions to optimize sucking you back in. Deleted my account and it was perfect, no emails, no getting drawn if, if someone wants to talk with me there's a dozen chat service to choose from besi…

Perhaps it is my paranoia, but I worry that someone could create a lookalike to my account and misrepresent me. So I leave my real account there and simply don't mess with it. Occasionally I post that people should reach me by email.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by jfengel » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:58 PM UTC

dingaling wrote: post #129

blunte wrote: post #74

There are so many ways to have a problem with Facebook and be unable to get help. The list of ways grows... My "favorite" is if you once had a spare FB account for playing some game, and later FB has blocked that account (for inactivity, or being obviously fake _after_ they instituted the real name policy)... but you still get occasional emails from FB begging you to come back and login - your friends miss you! Of co…

> Facebook will continue as a bad and irresponsible actor of global proportions I log in, I have a browse at what my acquaintances have posted, I close the tab and go on with the day. Sometimes I flick through the 'People you may know' and smile at some old real-world friends. For the vast majority of people, Facebook is a positive experience.

The problem is people having a positive experience by becoming angrier and angrier. They're having a great day on Facebook. Then they go out and make other people's lives worse, because the information they're acting on is faulty.

It's not a majority of Facebook users, but it has an impact on a majority of people, or at least a very large minority.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by nerdponx » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

jungletime wrote: post #143

There is an episode on the simpsons, which I think illustrates the problem with the modern times. Everyone overreacting to a snippet of information, without knowing what came before or after. The overreacting to the overreactions. Its two villages making up stories about what happens in the other village, and each turn, the story gets embellished. How To Cook For Forty Humans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI7B758X…

I don't get the relevance. Is this article an overreaction?

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by jfengel » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 5:00 PM UTC

ponker wrote: post #148

tomp wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. I consider "gender" even sillier - e.g. Facebook adding 100s of different genders to their website - how about just removing the field altogether? Same about "legal sex" - why would the government care in the first place?! ( Doctors might, but the rest of the government, not really.)

This is for Facebook's ad targeting. They want advertisers to be able to advertise to 21-24 year old women in California.

They can probably infer it as accurately as asking people. The inference isn't always accurate, but people don't always tell the truth, either.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by naniwaduni » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 5:00 PM UTC

eythian wrote: post #77

robertlagrant wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Medium. At the top of the article another name is given.

At the bottom it says: > This article was written by Reinier Kist and originally appeared in Dutch in NRC on August 3rd, 2020. It was translated into English by Hans de Zwart. In the original source: https://archive.is/g6H0F it is also "De Zwart" when without the first name, and I would reasonably trust NRC to get it right.

I would hope it would be even more reasonable to expect Hans de Zwart to get it right!

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by duxup » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

>The website has all this time been incorrectly labelled “by our automated tools” as spam, according to the spokesperson. “Our apologies for the inconvenience.”

It seems the large tech companies just have a policy to automate as much as possible and if it impacts some folks unfairly, that's just how it works and they've no interest in dealing with it unless it gets PR. Otherwise screw those little people.

I had a domain through blogger that I registered ages ago on the blogger site. Google started emailing me that it was expiring and directed me to Gsuite.... but I don't have a Gsuite account and google didn't make one for me...

The domain didn't appear in my Google domains account.

Google had just pointed blogger domain users to Gsuite and called it a day.

Google was no help, I never got a response from the handful of ways (none of them good) trying to reach out to them.

Finally I found the old registrar google used behind the scenes and they let me renew the domain.

I never heard back from google other than all the spam about my domain expiring and asking me to login to Gsuite... repeatedly.. sent to an email without a Gusite account.. someone just flipped a switch and screw everyone I guess.