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Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by skygazer »

ianai wrote: post #49
simonh wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the anti-China stuff is going away regardless of the election. Maybe some of the more egregious footgun stuff and the more petty sanctions and goading that are mainly for show, but the fact is there have been brewing disputes with China for a long time and Trump has brought them to a head. However beating down on China over their behaviour only achieves anything if it changes that behaviour, otherwise w…

The market would soar after ending the tariffs.

The market is a Paperclip Maximizer.

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by pradn »

M277 wrote: post #59
pradn wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's torturous to claim that phones have a "primary commercial purpose of forcing people to look at advertising". Most people would say phones are for talking to loved ones, having fun, getting the news, and playing games. Just today, I skimmed the NYT and FT, read about the Polish author Jan Potocki (and tweeted out quotes from the article), emailed my landlord, and reminisced with friends about our favorite biscuit…

Valid points, although I disagree on the 'playing games' part. I haven't played mobile games in a long while, however the last time I checked them, they were all poorly designed, predatory schemes designed to be intentionally frustrating to get you to spend money in them.

I agree with you. The vast majority of mobile games are trashy slot machines.

There are a good number of excellent mobile games though: Monument Valley comes to mind.

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by skygazer »

Analemma_ wrote: post #54
a5withtrrs wrote: post #20

Cool tech. And I'm all for making integrated circuits and components more dense and space efficient. But I also wish that wouldn't result in the devices getting unreasonably thin/fragile. I'd rather have a sturdier device with 2-3x the battery capacity any day. As it is, I put a bulky case/screen protector and carry a spare battery and cable. Not exactly an ideal solution.

Every generation of the iPhone after the 6 has been thicker, with more battery capacity, than the previous one. Where is this meme about "they just keep making the phones thinner with worse battery life" coming from?

It’s a hold over from 2014. Once a criticism, always a criticism.

A tangential quote about the persistence of old, uninformed ideas:

“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. . . . An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul becomes Paul. What does happen is that its opponents gradually die out, and that the growing generation is familiarized with the ideas from the beginning: another instance of the fact that the future lies with the youth.” — Max Planck, Scientific autobiography, 1950

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by bgorman »

mahkeiro wrote: post #3

A funny things is that we keep hearing about US only tech power, but AMSL (NL), is needed by TSMC (TW) to engrave a reference design by ARM (UK). But US is going one more time to limit EU tech by getting its hand on both ARM and AMSL as they previously did with many EU tech companies... At one point EU should realize that the US are playing the same game as the Chinese and are really not business friend.

Intel, a US company provided ASML the funds to develop their latest technology (EUV). (https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-and-asml-reac...)

In retrospect, Intel should have insisted on much more onerous terms.

There are other suppliers who make photolithography equipment, if ASML went bankrupt, the industry would just fund the competitors.

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Post by codr7 »

hajile wrote: post #48
Shivetya wrote: post #23

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I understand the issues the US has but there are big difference here that you just cannot ignore. To give China preference in trade is to accept all that China is doing and will do. What would it take to say, no. From Hong Kong to treatment Uighurs and their threat towards Taiwan. The world as a whole needs to step back from trade with China as a whole. As for NATO , the EU has long has the technical means to do away…

> sadly the percentage of the US budget going there decreases by small percentages overall letting politicians on both sides claim they have reduced spending. Even halving the US defense budget won't solve the US deficit issues. I think more US citizens should understand this. Even if the ENTIRE military budget were eliminated, the budget wouldn't put the US in the black. In fact, eliminating EVERYTHING except benefi…

A friend of mine is buying gold. It's a mystery to me how you can sort of see that it's all going down the drain but still insist on believing that you'll be able to sail through it by careful planning. We're all in the same boat here, and it's sinking fast. It doesn't take much of a disaster for money (and gold) to become completely worthless.

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by evgen »

M277 wrote: post #59
pradn wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's torturous to claim that phones have a "primary commercial purpose of forcing people to look at advertising". Most people would say phones are for talking to loved ones, having fun, getting the news, and playing games. Just today, I skimmed the NYT and FT, read about the Polish author Jan Potocki (and tweeted out quotes from the article), emailed my landlord, and reminisced with friends about our favorite biscuit…

Valid points, although I disagree on the 'playing games' part. I haven't played mobile games in a long while, however the last time I checked them, they were all poorly designed, predatory schemes designed to be intentionally frustrating to get you to spend money in them.

You need to search for better games. There are some great ports of very good board games out there right now and almost all of the good board games are apps of the 'pay us $5-10 now and we will continue to update this already quite good app for years and you will never see an ad or IAP' variety. Very refreshing.

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by otikik »

I used to like that my tech was "smarter".

Last night my son took my earphones from the table to play with them, and I spent an inordinate amount of time looking for them (they ended up in the terrace!).

But this morning I got several ads on youtube for headphones.

I don't like this one bit.

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by [deleted] »

otikik wrote: post #68

I used to like that my tech was "smarter". Last night my son took my earphones from the table to play with them, and I spent an inordinate amount of time looking for them (they ended up in the terrace!). But this morning I got several ads on youtube for headphones. I don't like this one bit.

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Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by jm4 »

ianai wrote: post #49
simonh wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the anti-China stuff is going away regardless of the election. Maybe some of the more egregious footgun stuff and the more petty sanctions and goading that are mainly for show, but the fact is there have been brewing disputes with China for a long time and Trump has brought them to a head. However beating down on China over their behaviour only achieves anything if it changes that behaviour, otherwise w…

The market would soar after ending the tariffs.

The market is also incredibly shortsighted most of the time. Trump being obnoxious and overall just bad - depending on your perspective - and Trump being right to want to do something about China are not mutually exclusive. It was a growing problem that needed to be addressed. I hope the president for the next 4 years and beyond handles it well.
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