When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

Post by edmundsauto » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:24 PM UTC

barrkel wrote: post #93

kokey wrote: post #49

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It's the problem anyone who moderates a system faces, when the users vastly outnumbers the moderators your moderation has to have some level of opaqueness and unpredictability or else you have no chance of keeping up with people gaming the system.

Or you delegate. Grant trusted individuals power to moderate sub-communities. How do you ensure you select trusted individuals? Create institutional mechanisms with accountability and checks and balances; e.g. community voting to bestow time-limited power on individuals, and appeal boards to as a check on abuses of that power, and perhaps recall votes to remove someone. Opaqueness isn't the answer. Opaqueness leads t…

Post by Miraste » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:27 PM UTC

dingaling wrote: post #129

blunte wrote: post #74

There are so many ways to have a problem with Facebook and be unable to get help. The list of ways grows... My "favorite" is if you once had a spare FB account for playing some game, and later FB has blocked that account (for inactivity, or being obviously fake _after_ they instituted the real name policy)... but you still get occasional emails from FB begging you to come back and login - your friends miss you! Of co…

> Facebook will continue as a bad and irresponsible actor of global proportions I log in, I have a browse at what my acquaintances have posted, I close the tab and go on with the day. Sometimes I flick through the 'People you may know' and smile at some old real-world friends. For the vast majority of people, Facebook is a positive experience.

Post by cryvate1284 » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:38 PM UTC

dmurray wrote: post #88

mytailorisrich wrote: post #43

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Names are too complicated and too personal. The issue is that many developers have an urge to do some 'clever' processing on them when, really, my conclusion is that they should be left alone. Just sanitise them for security purpose and that's it. This is a typical 'less is more' scenario. The best person to write a specific name as it should be is the person the name belongs to, so just let them do it.

> The best person to write a specific name as it should be is the person the name belongs to, so just let them do it. It's inconvenient to have the person you are writing about copyedit all of your writing. How would that even work? And if you don't allow them to do that, how do you account for the situation here where Mr de Zwart's name is capitalized differently depending on context? I'm not even sure if I have it…

Post by the8472 » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:39 PM UTC

edmundsauto wrote: post #131

barrkel wrote: post #93

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Or you delegate. Grant trusted individuals power to moderate sub-communities. How do you ensure you select trusted individuals? Create institutional mechanisms with accountability and checks and balances; e.g. community voting to bestow time-limited power on individuals, and appeal boards to as a check on abuses of that power, and perhaps recall votes to remove someone. Opaqueness isn't the answer. Opaqueness leads t…

Are there sites that have done this at scale? Reddit and Wikipedia come to mind as counter examples, where the people with the most time and desire for power end up doing almost all the moderation.

Post by capableweb » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:41 PM UTC

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capableweb wrote: post #30

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Not so weird when you consider the context. Zoom is an North American company with most (if not all) of it's product/engineering development happening in China. Just reading public information, it seems they have no development teams in the North of Europe nor Eastern Europe, so it's only natural that some character sets ends up better supported than others.

It's likely that all the characters are being transferred and stored in the same charset (probably a Unicode one) regardless of what character is entered. The replacement glyph (the question mark) might be caused by their use of a font with incomplete Unicode coverage, or (more likely) by a buggy "take the first character of each word in their name" algorithm, for example using the first byte and then special-casing…