Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

Post by throwaway4good » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 1:28 PM UTC

hajile wrote: post #47

buran77 wrote: post #31

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> until they can live without the US in all areas. The EU isn't necessarily worried it can't live without the US because the US wouldn't simply answer by withdrawing all support and embargoing the EU. They'd be shooting themselves in the other foot. But they would respond the way all superpowers do when direct, public intervention is not on the table. With subversion. If the NSA leaks have shown anything it's that ev…

> It's also cheaper to let the US do its military thing and be a bodyguard, and that means the EU can focus on more important social issues. Maybe it's a small price to pay, maybe not. Some future generation will have to answer that. I guess Europe had better hope America doesn't do what Americans want and pull troops home... The only truth of foreign policy is "might makes right". Ignoring treaties as just pieces of…

Post by mvanbaak » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 1:35 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #40

jryle70 wrote: post #30

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ASML's revenue has tripled since 2007 - [0]. Stock price increased ten fold. I'm sure they don't complain about how things turn out for them thanks to the proliferation of mobile devices after iPhone. [0]- https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/ASML/asml-holding/...

> I'm sure they don't complain about how things turn out for them Apple also shouldn't complain, but still they let the consumer pay twice: once for the phone, and then the tax.

Post by hajile » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 1:38 PM UTC

easton wrote: post #45

jonplackett wrote: post #39

OK so I hope to br proven wrong, but the stats for the iPad Air don't really back this up being such a big deal. They compare it to the A12 for a start rather than the A13 of last year, so it can't be that big of a leap. Plus it's clocked faster which would account for almost all of the increase in performance from the A13. I'm sure it's a solid new chip - as always - but I see no evidence of a particularly massive r…

They compare it to the A12 I think because the iPad Pro and previous iPad Air (I believe, can’t remember) were both running A12 variants. It may still have something over the A13, but if they are trying to convince people to upgrade they probably want to compare it to the previous gen.

Post by pradn » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 1:59 PM UTC

bleepblorp wrote: post #27

supernova87a wrote: post #5

Well, super interesting, in that it is the first time I'd heard of a tin plasma laser (produces the EUV)!

If you think about it, it's deeply depressing how much incredibly interesting technology (and cumulative human effort) goes into portable computing devices that have the primary commercial purpose of forcing people to look at advertising. There's something deeply wrong when the best purpose humanity can find for all the effort that goes into things like 5G and EUV lithography is to use it to keep people addicted to F…

Post by M277 » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 2:04 PM UTC

pradn wrote: post #57

bleepblorp wrote: post #27

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If you think about it, it's deeply depressing how much incredibly interesting technology (and cumulative human effort) goes into portable computing devices that have the primary commercial purpose of forcing people to look at advertising. There's something deeply wrong when the best purpose humanity can find for all the effort that goes into things like 5G and EUV lithography is to use it to keep people addicted to F…

It's torturous to claim that phones have a "primary commercial purpose of forcing people to look at advertising". Most people would say phones are for talking to loved ones, having fun, getting the news, and playing games. Just today, I skimmed the NYT and FT, read about the Polish author Jan Potocki (and tweeted out quotes from the article), emailed my landlord, and reminisced with friends about our favorite biscuit…