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Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by Xelbair »

capableweb wrote: post #30
m4lvin wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am still surprised that the two-character icons which Zoom uses for accounts without profile pictures become "A�" for anyone called "Alice Ørland" or similar. It is even more surprising that Ö, Š, etc. become �, but 文军 shows up fine.

Not so weird when you consider the context. Zoom is an North American company with most (if not all) of it's product/engineering development happening in China. Just reading public information, it seems they have no development teams in the North of Europe nor Eastern Europe, so it's only natural that some character sets ends up better supported than others.

Yeah, that would work as an excuse back in ANSI days.

we have UTF8 as a standard nowadays.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by eznit »

ascar wrote: post #22

> He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” This reminds me of the excellent "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Name…

If black people used "de" in their names I'm sure the bug would've been fixed in hours.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by iudqnolq »

pteraspidomorph wrote: post #109
dontchooseanick wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And of course don't forget Pablo Picasso :) Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso ( https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Picasso )

...of Ulm ;) Name forms really should just be: Your full legal name: [accepts anything, modifies nothing] Shortened name of your choice for our UI: [can have restrictions, esp. length]

I feel like the pattern of names in the UI comes from wanting to justify collecting the name in the first place. What is it actually good for?

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by kalium-xyz »

One can only wonder how much the economic damage is from such small annoyances.

I always have to check under the D for Dutch, N for Netherlands, and T for The when filling in my nationality or my postal address on an international form. Its a minor annoyance till you encounter very important forms without an easy way to scroll or some other broken UI making input hard.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by kalium-xyz »

blunte wrote: post #74

There are so many ways to have a problem with Facebook and be unable to get help. The list of ways grows... My "favorite" is if you once had a spare FB account for playing some game, and later FB has blocked that account (for inactivity, or being obviously fake _after_ they instituted the real name policy)... but you still get occasional emails from FB begging you to come back and login - your friends miss you! Of co…

If you are European you can report them for this as it goes against the GDPR[0]. You can also just send an angry email to their data officer which they have to reply to by law, and enjoy the template reaction of "we are currently too busy" followed by dismissal a few months later.

If you are not European you can probably still use their mechanisms for complying with the GDPR to fix this as they cant really tell who is a European citizen and who is not.

[0] https://gdpr.eu/email-encryption/

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

teekert wrote: post #71
ascar wrote: post #22

> He immediately gets angry at Facebook messing up his name. The company changes his name to ‘Hans De Zwart’, with a capitalized D. A small annoyance, but for De Zwart it signifies something bigger: “It is the arrogance of a giant American corporation which considers the correct spelling of the names of millions of Dutch people an edge case.” This reminds me of the excellent "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Name…

Yeah, in the Netherlands we also don't use the "de" and "van" for sorting so it was confusing to find my badge under the "v" at American conferences the first time. Ah well, what can you do? A friend of mine had his FB acount blocked for failing to provide a real name (his last name is "Fun"), ironically after he gave FB a false name they did accept it.

That's kind of interesting. I grew up in a heavily dutch town (lineage only) in the US and we always organized last names with "van" in the V's.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by thrwyoilarticle »

louwrentius wrote: post #33

I think if you work at Facebook, I wonder how you can live with yourself, helping to make the world a worse place. Having worked at Facebook should make you a paria, nobody should hire you. Facebook should be a stain on your resume.

Do you hate the people at Facebook who work on improving the Linux network stack? Are they making the world a worse place?

Some nuance, please.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by yowlingcat »

op03 wrote: post #15

Facebook is trying to administer a 2 billion member virtual city with about 20k people. Most of the fires that start and actual administration details are just conveniently left to real world politicians, bureaucracies, journos, school boards, parents and police depts to work out. This retarded unsustainable model has been sold as the magic of Scale. Scaling user base = Scaling up issues. No free lunch. Regulators ca…

> And if they dont have enough how to charge them for all the resource/energy drainage they offload to the real world.

That's the million (billion?) dollar question for me. I observe that it will sadly follow the precedent of the oil industry and other industries -- a slap on the wrist to the tune of a fraction of the true damage, with society left to bear the brunt of the externality in perpetuity and prosecutors able to say "at least we tried!"

I can't help but wonder if there isn't a better way.

Re: When thebiglebow.ski is blocked by Facebook

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Post by [deleted] »

robertlagrant wrote: post #110
jiuahweruihawi wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've long viewed working for Facebook (or Twitter) as like working for a cigarette company. Your product makes the world a worse place and everything would be better if your company disappeared, but hey, something's gotta pay the rent I guess?

I'm amazed that in a global lockdown, where digital communication and connection are more important than ever, that you see only negative benefit to users in Facebook.

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