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Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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ARM isn’t UK company since 2016. Maybe current situation isn’t that bad and will lead to international RISC-V explosion.

Again this shareholder nationality things? (A Japanese shareholder don’t make ARM a Japanese company). Because by this metric a lot of US companies are not US... (a couple of them can even be Norwegian or Saudi despite having no presence were there shareholders resides).

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Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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> That it has been, is in large part down to the ingenuity of a relatively obscure Dutch company - ASML. I hope they charge Apple 30% for every phone sold.

Why should they do that?

I suspect that was a jab at apple's 30% cut on appstore sales.

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> That it has been, is in large part down to the ingenuity of a relatively obscure Dutch company - ASML. I hope they charge Apple 30% for every phone sold.

That will only make Apple to increase the price 30% for every phone... and transfer that burden to customer.

Apple doesn't like to comprosmise on their profits.

(Saying based on Apple's response to current Govt. Tax system)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ARM isn’t UK company since 2016. Maybe current situation isn’t that bad and will lead to international RISC-V explosion.

Again this shareholder nationality things? (A Japanese shareholder don’t make ARM a Japanese company). Because by this metric a lot of US companies are not US... (a couple of them can even be Norwegian or Saudi despite having no presence were there shareholders resides).

I've been involved with many international groups where the controlling shareholders have a different domicile to the operating company. The shareholders will always call the shots. They can replace operating teams, restructure the business and transfer technology. The ultimate shareholder has control - have absolutely no doubt about that.

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A funny things is that we keep hearing about US only tech power, but AMSL (NL), is needed by TSMC (TW) to engrave a reference design by ARM (UK). But US is going one more time to limit EU tech by getting its hand on both ARM and AMSL as they previously did with many EU tech companies... At one point EU should realize that the US are playing the same game as the Chinese and are really not business friend.

The EU knows this, but they will continue to comply with US trade sanctions until they can live without the US in all areas. A giant hurdle (but not the only one) is NATO and being able to counter Russia. While NATO and the EU are separate, many countries are members of both. If the EU took a hard stance and said that they value trade with China more than the US's security complaints, the US could very well use that…

All this talk about NATO still being an active entity in the protection of Europe is dangerous and hopelessly naïve.

As long as Trump is president, I don't think we need to have any illusions as to which side he would chose in a hypothetical armed conflict between the EU and Russia (he would pick no side).

EU politicians should wake up and smell the coffee, and invest in an EU army before it's too late. We really (desperately) need strategic independence from the US and other foreign powers. The US in particular has been an unpredictable, unreliable, and untrustworthy partner in the past two decades or so (e.g. Iran deal, Paris climate accords, Iraq war, EU-US trade wars, ...)

EDIT: Stop downvoting me and tell me instead where I'm wrong.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU knows this, but they will continue to comply with US trade sanctions until they can live without the US in all areas. A giant hurdle (but not the only one) is NATO and being able to counter Russia. While NATO and the EU are separate, many countries are members of both. If the EU took a hard stance and said that they value trade with China more than the US's security complaints, the US could very well use that…

All this talk about NATO still being an active entity in the protection of Europe is dangerous and hopelessly naïve. As long as Trump is president, I don't think we need to have any illusions as to which side he would chose in a hypothetical armed conflict between the EU and Russia (he would pick no side). EU politicians should wake up and smell the coffee, and invest in an EU army before it's too late. We really (de…

> As long as Trump is president

So until January 21st.

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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A funny things is that we keep hearing about US only tech power, but AMSL (NL), is needed by TSMC (TW) to engrave a reference design by ARM (UK). But US is going one more time to limit EU tech by getting its hand on both ARM and AMSL as they previously did with many EU tech companies... At one point EU should realize that the US are playing the same game as the Chinese and are really not business friend.

Same with Qualcomm trying to buy NXP (also from NL).

It only failed because the Chinese gov refused to accept the merger. But the EU had already agreed to it.

The UK should have never agreed to Google buying DeepMind either.

These companies have tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars in cash. They can afford to "create" a new competitor in the market, rather than take out OUT of the market, and it we would all be better off.

I really think all $100+ million acquisitions of companies should enter automatic anti-trust review. Maybe even lower than that.

These acquisitions by large companies hurt consumers in two ways. Either they squander the disruptive technology and nothing comes out of it, slowing down progress for everyone, or they put it to good use and then they get to maintain or extend their dominant positions - and we don't want any of that to happen as consumers.

We want these large companies to continue to have healthy competition. It's better for consumers and it's better for the job market, too (fewer companies in the market = fewer job hunting opportunities = downward pressure on salaries).

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Cool tech. And I'm all for making integrated circuits and components more dense and space efficient. But I also wish that wouldn't result in the devices getting unreasonably thin/fragile. I'd rather have a sturdier device with 2-3x the battery capacity any day.

As it is, I put a bulky case/screen protector and carry a spare battery and cable. Not exactly an ideal solution.

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