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The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by WildGreenLeave »

howlgarnish wrote: post #2

The article mentions Thailand's plan to invite long-stay tourists willing to go through a 14-day quarantine on arrival. It was supposed to start this week, but was pushed back at last minute, officially because the arrangements were not ready but quite probably because they couldn't actually find enough interest. (In addition to the quarantine, you can only arrive by dedicated chartered aircraft!?) https://www.channe…

I considered trying to apply for this STV (Special Tourist Visa) but was put off by the private plane or a chartered plane. But then someone told me that the chartered plane is arranged by the Thai embassy from the country where you are staying.

It doesn't change much of the situation of course, but they don't expect you to arrange a charter flight yourself.

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by WildGreenLeave »

postcynical wrote: post #14
howlgarnish wrote: post #2

The article mentions Thailand's plan to invite long-stay tourists willing to go through a 14-day quarantine on arrival. It was supposed to start this week, but was pushed back at last minute, officially because the arrangements were not ready but quite probably because they couldn't actually find enough interest. (In addition to the quarantine, you can only arrive by dedicated chartered aircraft!?) https://www.channe…

I think there could be enough interest if managed well, but unfortunately they make the process very complicated and then the quarantine is overly strict (you can't order food from outside, no alcohol, not allowed to open the windows) and other shenanigans like prebooking all hotels, wearing gps-wristbands. Most of the people interested in this already live in Thailand (but got stuck abroad unable to return) on touri…

I do have some Thai friends, and a few pinoys who work in Thailand so I am familiar with the rules and quarantaine process. You are right about those rules, but ordering Grab Food is possible. You can also register 2 'family members' (aren't checked) that are able to bring you stuff. And of course with a bit of monetary courage you are pretty much free to bring them whatever they want.

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Post by toper-centage »

junon wrote: post #51
RickJWagner wrote: post #48

Wow. A quick glance at the picture shows about a million guys and 4 girls, I think. I believe this party would have died of natural causes after a while. I can't imagine it would go on organically.

Contrary to popular belief, not all parties are held in order to find ephemeral sexual mates.

Also, gay guys exist and party quite a lot.

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

howlgarnish wrote: post #39
toomanybeersies wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Digital nomads? They're digital colonists. It's colonialism in everything but name.

I probably shouldn't, but I'll bite: how does a dude with a laptop in a beachside cafe implement "the policy of a country seeking to extend or retain its authority over other people or territories, generally with the aim of economic dominance"? They're likely not even paying taxes to their home country.

> They're likely not even paying taxes to their home country.

They likely are. You meet a few DNs here and there who work entirely through cryptocurrency, but everyone else gets paid through ordinary bank channels that bring tax obligations.

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Post by crazynick4 »

camillomiller wrote: post #4

This is very good news. Full moon parties are not the stuff of legend, but rather the lowest point of party tourism in Thailand. Although I think that, give it 5 years, something similar will pop-up somewhere in SEA.

So, the answer to that for you would be to just not go. Thailand is more than just one beach. Many people enjoy this party, I met one girl in Thailand who was a local and loved it, I don't see why you'd be happy about other people not getting the opportunity to do something they enjoy.

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Post by toomanybeersies »

Chris2048 wrote: post #56
toomanybeersies wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The aim of colonialism (at least according to Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations [1]) was to exploit the New World's resources in order to accumulate wealth. Extending authority over these territories was just a means to this end. These days, rather than the Spanish Empire stripping South America of its gold and silver, it's individual workers emigrating to countries with a low cost of living to maximise their own p…

By this definition, any immigrant is a colonialist? How exactly does this "exploit the New World's resources" given they will probably get less infrastructure than in their country of origin?

Read the book, or at least the chapter on colonialism (it's not too long), it answers both your questions.

Apologies for not giving you a proper reply, I'm just about to go to sleep.

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by camillomiller »

crazynick4 wrote: post #65
camillomiller wrote: post #4

This is very good news. Full moon parties are not the stuff of legend, but rather the lowest point of party tourism in Thailand. Although I think that, give it 5 years, something similar will pop-up somewhere in SEA.

So, the answer to that for you would be to just not go. Thailand is more than just one beach. Many people enjoy this party, I met one girl in Thailand who was a local and loved it, I don't see why you'd be happy about other people not getting the opportunity to do something they enjoy.

I am happy about people doing the things they enjoy, but I’m still free to think that this kind of parties are not good for the environment and for the development in tourism in Thailand, as they favor a type of mass-tourism based on drugs and alcohol binging that has nothing to do with discovering the beauty and the people of one of my favorite countries in the world.

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by Chris2048 »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #66
Chris2048 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this definition, any immigrant is a colonialist? How exactly does this "exploit the New World's resources" given they will probably get less infrastructure than in their country of origin?

Read the book, or at least the chapter on colonialism (it's not too long), it answers both your questions. Apologies for not giving you a proper reply, I'm just about to go to sleep.

I still can't see how this applies to "digital nomads".
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