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Removing Holocaust Denial Content

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Re: Removing Holocaust Denial Content

#71

Admirable move. I think Facebook (and all its properties), Twitter, and other hyper-connected social networks must show a healthy level of intolerance towards groups and ideologies that are beyond reason and recall, especially when those said groups are overtly and unmistakably intolerant themselves. This heavy-handedness isn't an encroachment on free speech but a necessary impediment to keep the spirit of free speec…

That is slipperiest of slopes if I ever heard one.

Can you explain how that is a slippery slope?

Re: Removing Holocaust Denial Content

#72

Censoring opposition has not once yielded positive results in the history of the world. My personal conspiracy theory is that policies like these are subversively being used to push HD since no one could possibly be stupid enough to think this would help.

Hasn’t it? Do you have any examples, or should I just take your word for it?

I'd suggest approaching this from the other direction: providing even one counterexample would refute GP's assertion.

Re: Removing Holocaust Denial Content

#73

Admirable move. I think Facebook (and all its properties), Twitter, and other hyper-connected social networks must show a healthy level of intolerance towards groups and ideologies that are beyond reason and recall, especially when those said groups are overtly and unmistakably intolerant themselves. This heavy-handedness isn't an encroachment on free speech but a necessary impediment to keep the spirit of free speec…

How would you have them weigh in on the Armenian Genocide, Holodomor, or Tianenman? Each of those conflicts has deniers of various levels, some of whom are states. And, if Facebook gets it wrong (and perhaps decides the Tianenman square massacre was a hoax by the West to discredit the CCP) - how should we respond then? This is a company that was censoring pictures of mothers feeding their babies, but still has conten…

I'm not sure why this is downvoted. There are many people, particularly in Tukey, who deny the Armenian genocide (hell there's a even a podcast named after the people that did it). Tiananmen is also downplayed by CCP officials outside China and denied within China.

Re: Removing Holocaust Denial Content

#74
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hasn’t it? Do you have any examples, or should I just take your word for it?

Are you completely blind to the countercultures that have popped up completely unchecked because of social media bans?

idk, maybe I am.

However anecdotally, I was a part of the occupy movement back in 2011. A large part of our spread was to stay on the street and deliver propaganda. After we were de-platformed by the police using various scare tactics (including arrest) our spread was heavily restricted and the movement quickly died. It seems to me that these tactics of stopping our spread by the police were pretty successful.

Re: Removing Holocaust Denial Content

#75
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hasn’t it? Do you have any examples, or should I just take your word for it?

Are you completely blind to the countercultures that have popped up completely unchecked because of social media bans?

So, unless hate is completely unchecked, it will be completely unchecked?

Re: Removing Holocaust Denial Content

#77
Such content should not be removed/censored but officially annotated (a red text aside of the original content would be a generic disclaimer and link to a full dissertation on why such kind of content is both erroneous and harmful to humanity). And of course such content should be ranked down in the recommendation system.

Re: Removing Holocaust Denial Content

#78

Admirable move. I think Facebook (and all its properties), Twitter, and other hyper-connected social networks must show a healthy level of intolerance towards groups and ideologies that are beyond reason and recall, especially when those said groups are overtly and unmistakably intolerant themselves. This heavy-handedness isn't an encroachment on free speech but a necessary impediment to keep the spirit of free speec…

Where do we draw the line? Is this a Pacifica kind of issue where we'll know it when we see it?

"especially when those said groups are overtly and unmistakably intolerant themselves"

To me that seems like a pretty clear line. Some groups will invariably try to straddle it, but plenty of groups on Facebook make it quite clear their level of hate for others.

Re: Removing Holocaust Denial Content

#79

> According to a recent survey of adults in the US aged 18-39, almost a quarter said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, that it had been exaggerated or they weren’t sure. Wow!

To me that seems like three very different positions to be bucketed together?

Totally, not very helpful data. But it sounds dramatic.

Re: Removing Holocaust Denial Content

#80

> According to a recent survey of adults in the US aged 18-39, almost a quarter said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, that it had been exaggerated or they weren’t sure. Wow!

To me that seems like three very different positions to be bucketed together?

I tried to point this out on Twitter a few weeks ago when this survey came out, and I basically became an holocaust denier...
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