If you remove Holocaust denial content all you achieve is to fuel conspiracy theories. It's completely counter-productive.
That's fine. They can go back to 4chan or gab or stormfront to complain about it.
Parler too
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hasn’t it? Do you have any examples, or should I just take your word for it?
Are you completely blind to the countercultures that have popped up completely unchecked because of social media bans?
Evidence is that when large social media sites ban hateful groups, they re-congregate somewhere else in much smaller numbers. So while the bans don’t eliminate all of them, they are actually fairly effective at turning the temperature down.
Consider people like Alex Jones. He’s still making stuff, his hardcore fans still subscribe to his stuff, but he’s lost all of his marginal followers as well as the massive on-ramp that YouTube provided him in the form of search and recommendations.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/bjbp9d/do-social-media-bans-...
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#43If you remove Holocaust denial content all you achieve is to fuel conspiracy theories. It's completely counter-productive.
For instance: "[W]e recently banned anti-Semitic stereotypes about the collective power of Jews that often depicts them running the world or its major institutions." – Mark Zuckerberg (CEO) & Sheryl Sandberg (COO) of Facebook Look, I point out the above primarily in jest. (There is irony there, no?) But the other point that I'm making is the above will not be missed by conspiracy theorists.
You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see the dangers of monopolistic corporations controlling speech online. Sure, in this case, nobody can sanely argue with the reasoning, but on the other hand, the last eight years have shown how real the slippery slope "fallacy" actually is.
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History 101: humanity doesn't learn from history
To summarize the major issue, we're taught in schools the results of something like Nazi Germany, 6 million died in camps, Hitler was a psychopath, etc., all the details of how horrible it was and how we can never let it happen again.
What we're not taught are the methodical psychological operations implemented over decades on at least 2 or 3 generations that lead up to a situation where an entire country could be fooled or intimidated into allowing such horrors to occur.
If we were taught the causes and not the symptoms then I dare say history would be harder to repeat. Go read Mein Kampf, 1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, it's all there. The methods are extremely simple, it's just the level of psychopathy in our ruling class that is hard for people to accept.
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#45The unchecked power Zuck and co have has global implications for every tiny decision they make. Who gave them this power? What makes them the best people to be making these decisions? Can we always trust them to get it right?
Facebook is a private entity. Facebook’s shareholders have given Mark Zuckerberg and his management team the power to manage the company as they see fit. If users disagree with the terms and conditions of using the site, they don’t have to use it.
That works... for a non monopoly.
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#46This is very long overdue. Interestingly, the post has no attribution or by-line, and as usual, Facebook takes no responsibility for helping spread hate (the entire post is very passive).
I see a byline ("By Monika Bickert, VP of Content Policy") on the desktop site.
They just added it apparently (the original didn't have it)
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#47Wish this would apply as well to the Armenian genocide denial content and other genocides in general. Cause, you know, there have been many more other genocides throughout the history but apparently there is only one that fits the Western/Eurocentric view
> Wish this would apply as well to the Armenian genocide denial content and other genocides in general.
Is this a thing? (Except in Turkey?)
If so whoever tries should absolutely not be allowed to get away with it.
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#48For context, here are Zuckerberg's comments, from July 2018, defending Facebook as a platform for spreading misinformation. He specifically uses as an example that he would not censor Holocaust denial.
https://www.vox.com/2018/7/18/17575158/mark-zuckerberg-faceb...
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#49Typical Jewish Zionist operated platform
The Holohoax is the only Historial event you NEVER allowed to debunk, debate or disagree with, and the Global Zionists have passed laws in over 17 nations around the planet To make sure no one reveals the truth or debunks it
Yet we never see a single movie, tv show or doco that exposes the millions of christians killed by the Hands of Zionist Jews in Russia in the number of 10-20 million
THOSE lives clearly dont get protected status
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#50In a semi-related tangent, The Economist recently had an article about the unintentional destruction of evidence when deleting terrorist propaganda.
The content should be removed from discourse, but I think there is value in making it a silent ban instead of deletion. Keep the post visible to only the poster, no one else can see or interact with the material once it's been flagged. It's effectively deleted, evidence maintained, and the user loses their behavioral dopamine fix once their content no longer generates any support or any controversy because it's fallen off into the void. I'm not sure what the unintended consequences would be of such a strategyth.
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/09/26/...