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The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by pjmlp »

wdqwfdqwfqwf wrote: post #7
dejv wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After years of being against all of those visa-runners and digital nomads of all kinds I am a bit skeptical of Thai goverment actually wanting long-stay tourists.

Unpopular opinion: If you're a "digital nomad", you're not a tourist. You're working.

In theory yes, although you probably want to declare yourself as tourist in many countries, unless you want to have some fun with local authorities.

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by lmm »

howlgarnish wrote: post #8
wdqwfdqwfqwf wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unpopular opinion: If you're a "digital nomad", you're not a tourist. You're working.

That's true by definition? But you're probably not displacing jobs for the locals, which is the typical justification for why it's hard for foreigners to get local work permits.

The rationale I've seen is that you're contributing less (risk-adjusted) to the country's economy than either a tourist (who would be spending more) or someone on a work visa (who would have a stable job and be paying local taxes) would.

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by tim333 »

howlgarnish wrote: post #2

The article mentions Thailand's plan to invite long-stay tourists willing to go through a 14-day quarantine on arrival. It was supposed to start this week, but was pushed back at last minute, officially because the arrangements were not ready but quite probably because they couldn't actually find enough interest. (In addition to the quarantine, you can only arrive by dedicated chartered aircraft!?) https://www.channe…

There were a lot of terms and conditions attached when I last saw the plan. I was in Thailand Mar-Jun and if it was just a 14 day quarantine and then you are free to go where you want I might go back but I read "Applicants for the visa will have to book a hotel or private accommodation for the full 90 days in order to qualify." I'm not surprised that not many people fit with that. I read somewhere they have had 50 applicants total.

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by postcynical »

howlgarnish wrote: post #2

The article mentions Thailand's plan to invite long-stay tourists willing to go through a 14-day quarantine on arrival. It was supposed to start this week, but was pushed back at last minute, officially because the arrangements were not ready but quite probably because they couldn't actually find enough interest. (In addition to the quarantine, you can only arrive by dedicated chartered aircraft!?) https://www.channe…

I think there could be enough interest if managed well, but unfortunately they make the process very complicated and then the quarantine is overly strict (you can't order food from outside, no alcohol, not allowed to open the windows) and other shenanigans like prebooking all hotels, wearing gps-wristbands. Most of the people interested in this already live in Thailand (but got stuck abroad unable to return) on tourist or other visas and would rent apartments, and not stay in hotel rooms.

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by tim333 »

dejv wrote: post #3
howlgarnish wrote: post #2

The article mentions Thailand's plan to invite long-stay tourists willing to go through a 14-day quarantine on arrival. It was supposed to start this week, but was pushed back at last minute, officially because the arrangements were not ready but quite probably because they couldn't actually find enough interest. (In addition to the quarantine, you can only arrive by dedicated chartered aircraft!?) https://www.channe…

After years of being against all of those visa-runners and digital nomads of all kinds I am a bit skeptical of Thai goverment actually wanting long-stay tourists.

They were actually quite tolerant of the visa runners. I used an organised service where they drove you to a park on the Myanmar border, you exited Thailand, 5 mins later re-entered Thailand, had a coffee then got the bus back. They could be like Europe and ban you for 90 days after you've been there for 90 days if they wanted to.

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by tim333 »

wdqwfdqwfqwf wrote: post #7
dejv wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After years of being against all of those visa-runners and digital nomads of all kinds I am a bit skeptical of Thai goverment actually wanting long-stay tourists.

Unpopular opinion: If you're a "digital nomad", you're not a tourist. You're working.

It's a grey area. What if you go see some tourist sites but think about work a bit? It's not clear where you draw the line.

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by pjc50 »

pjmlp wrote: post #11
wdqwfdqwfqwf wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unpopular opinion: If you're a "digital nomad", you're not a tourist. You're working.

In theory yes, although you probably want to declare yourself as tourist in many countries, unless you want to have some fun with local authorities.

.. until they find out you've been working without a visa, which (while unlikely) will result in even more "fun".

(I do side-eye people who refer to westerners working illegally in the non-west as "digital nomads" while referring to non-westerners doing the same in the west as "illegals")

Re: The Death of the Full Moon Party

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Post by dannyr »

dejv wrote: post #3
howlgarnish wrote: post #2

The article mentions Thailand's plan to invite long-stay tourists willing to go through a 14-day quarantine on arrival. It was supposed to start this week, but was pushed back at last minute, officially because the arrangements were not ready but quite probably because they couldn't actually find enough interest. (In addition to the quarantine, you can only arrive by dedicated chartered aircraft!?) https://www.channe…

After years of being against all of those visa-runners and digital nomads of all kinds I am a bit skeptical of Thai goverment actually wanting long-stay tourists.

Different situation now because instead of being overrun by tourists, they don't have many and the country relies heavily on tourism for revenue.
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