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In Finland the average amount of data transferred per SIM card is 17.3GB/month

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Re: In Finland the average amount of data transferred per SIM card is 17.3GB/month

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Post by mr_toad »

tzs wrote: post #93
northwest65 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not surprised, that really does boggle the mind.

We do the same thing with internet in the US. E.g., if someone sends me an email, I'm the one that has to pay my email provider for handling it, and I'm the one that has to pay and bandwidth costs to download it from my email provider to my computer. Isn't that how it works elsewhere? If so, what is mind boggling about the US using the same system for other communications networks besides the internet?

Not really the same, you pay your ISP the same regardless of how much (or even if) you use email.

Re: In Finland the average amount of data transferred per SIM card is 17.3GB/month

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Post by szszrk »

torben-friis wrote: post #11

I've got unlimited mobile data for a great price in spain as well. Honestly, I hope the us catches up at some point because software still doesn't even consider it an option - I have to actively fight all my settings so I can get updates, backups, streaming at high quality and the like because the OS considers they should always be done on wifi. Sometimes, the situation has been so absurd that I've had to use the sha…

The over way around is also annoying: what if you have a limited connection but you are on WiFi? Say, you share from another phone using hotspot feature.

Some tools allow to control this, but others will update the shit out of your mobile plan as soon as it can see wifi.

On the other hand I mostly like how roaming was solved in Android phones I had. It allowed me to choose which apps can use it and constantly monitored current usage of each.

Re: In Finland the average amount of data transferred per SIM card is 17.3GB/month

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Post by mr_toad »

dheera wrote: post #5
devxpy wrote: post #4

> Over here, unlimited mobile data means unlimited mobile data. This. Although India has the cheapest data next to Finland, the ground reality is quite different. I tried using 4G as my primary internet connection after COVID, and I got frustrated by "hidden" limits and random throttling from the ISP - ended up getting a fiber line. The 4G modem was a complete waste of money.

I really wish the US could institute some legal framework against deceptive advertising. Unlimited should mean unlimited, not throttled. If you are offering a 20GB plan, just say you are offering a 20GB plan. I've tried to use a 4G hotspot to setup my laptop and do work in outdoor parks but the number of times I can do that per month is limited.

> I really wish the US could institute some legal framework against deceptive advertising.

Trouble is that the politicians are some of the worst offenders when it comes to deceptive advertising.

Re: In Finland the average amount of data transferred per SIM card is 17.3GB/month

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Post by fphhotchips »

xuki wrote: post #23
voltagex_ wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't apply to LTE plans though - at least that I've seen. If you want an interesting test, find someone with a Telstra post-paid plan, and get a Boost Mobile SIM in another phone. Run speedtests side by side. Boost, although it's technically Telstra Pre-Paid, seems to be heavily throttled.

I have a legacy Telstra plan that allows unlimited data, it's truly unlimited.

Assuming that you have the Ultimate plan as I do, have you found a way to get a new phone on it without losing the amazing roaming privileges?

Re: In Finland the average amount of data transferred per SIM card is 17.3GB/month

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Post by sfmike »

In Taiwan, pay about 1000TWD or 33 USD. for the 80mbs unlimited data 30 day plan(no contract). Never throttled always fast even when in far away tea mountains like Alishan. If I took contract its 700 or 23 usd/month. Unlimited meaning yes you could download 24/7 it won't cap.

Re: In Finland the average amount of data transferred per SIM card is 17.3GB/month

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Post by zokier »

rectang wrote: post #32
econcon wrote: post #7

Finland is a tiny developed country it probably has good fiber or coax penetration both of which offer better latency than 4g. So what gives? Its similar to my usage pattern, only time I use mobile internet is when I am out of WiFi range

> Finland is a tiny developed country Maybe you're thinking of Iceland (population 364,000) rather than Finland (population 5.5 million)?

For comparison Finland is almost exactly the same size as Colorado both in population (5.5M vs 5.7M) and area (338k km² vs 270k km²).

In terms of population only Finland sits between NYC (pop 8M+) and LA (4M).

Re: In Finland the average amount of data transferred per SIM card is 17.3GB/month

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Post by eru »

dheera wrote: post #5
devxpy wrote: post #4

> Over here, unlimited mobile data means unlimited mobile data. This. Although India has the cheapest data next to Finland, the ground reality is quite different. I tried using 4G as my primary internet connection after COVID, and I got frustrated by "hidden" limits and random throttling from the ISP - ended up getting a fiber line. The 4G modem was a complete waste of money.

I really wish the US could institute some legal framework against deceptive advertising. Unlimited should mean unlimited, not throttled. If you are offering a 20GB plan, just say you are offering a 20GB plan. I've tried to use a 4G hotspot to setup my laptop and do work in outdoor parks but the number of times I can do that per month is limited.

Legal frameworks are mostly there to help the people / companies with the better lawyers.

What you are looking for is competition, and lower barriers to entry.

Re: In Finland the average amount of data transferred per SIM card is 17.3GB/month

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Post by dividuum »

ksec wrote: post #100
torben-friis wrote: post #11

I've got unlimited mobile data for a great price in spain as well. Honestly, I hope the us catches up at some point because software still doesn't even consider it an option - I have to actively fight all my settings so I can get updates, backups, streaming at high quality and the like because the OS considers they should always be done on wifi. Sometimes, the situation has been so absurd that I've had to use the sha…

I have been thinking for many years, why doesn't Apple works with Carrier on this. OS Update ( and may be App Update ) Download should happen during Midnight when everyone is asleep ( when the network is quiet ) and those Data should be exempt from their Data Allowance. There are increasing amount of people with no WiFI or Wired Internet connection at home. ( Mostly because how convenient Mobile Phone and Network has…

The reason is hopefully https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality. Otherwise you soon get a network with all the big player’s services being „free“. This makes competition with them even more difficult.
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