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A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Yeah, data portability is hard to define as a strict standard as it is extremely product specific. Even when we implemented it for my last company, we did JSON exports on signed S3 paths. I thought structured data was the easiest way for any competitor or user to use their data.

I feel they could have included a clause that would let a designated third party access the extracted data on the requester's behalf in an automated way. I think it could have worked pretty well to keep it as vague as that. (The auth aspects would need more detail, obviously.) I don't think data format fragmentation is a big issue (just implement adapters for the top five competitors in your market...), but rather th…

> just implement adapters for the top five competitors in your market

Is there anything to prevent the export file format from shifting regularly? You know, for ongoing product improvement reasons, naturally.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Unsurprising, for core business reasons, for sure. But, it is still customer-unfriendly behavior from Spotify. And probably anti-competitive too. Boy, as one of the very few people who switched over from Spotify to Apple Music, I’m hoping that the Spotify vs. Apple lawsuit turns on Spotify’s head over this

I still wish Spotify wins the Apple lawsuit but Spotify needs to change their stance here. They curate some really good playlists, so they can restrict them but they should allow user created playlists to be exported.

Yaaaassss! Spotify has such a good recommendation system! I loved every new artist I discovered through Spotify. I only wish they’d let me port all that over to Apple Music. Oh well. Fingers crossed, I guess.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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post #95

I use Tidal and I'm very satisfied, the catalog is huge, and the playlist are really well curated, plus their music suggestions are always spot on. I would suggest anyone using Spotify to switch. On the plus side, Tidal also pays musicians a four times what Spotify does (last time I checked, I can't find the link), which I think is in itself a good reason to prefer it.

I also switched to Tidal after 12 years as a Spotify user. The sound quality is far superior and I much prefer the UI of both the mobile and desktop apps. The only reason I still have the Spotify app installed is to share links to friends as most are still using Spotify.

If you subscribe to Spotify Premium and change few default settings, the sound quality is the same as Tidal's.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Also, it runs afoul of sections of GDPR. I don't agree that Spotify has to let users transfer Spotify curated playlists as that is a business strength. Songshift seems to show Spotify curated playlists on their homepage like Discover Weekly so I can see why Spotify won't like this. But if my understanding of GDPR is right they have to allow users to transfer playlists created by themselves.

Right. Forgot that. Regarding GDPR and data portability: In practise you can expect to receive a (link to a) zip file via email with a bunch of XML documents after going through a convoluted dance. Also, it often takes some time (days) to receive the data. Basically, nothing that can easily be automated by a third part service - you need user auth of the requesting user to access the data.) "You must comply with a re…

Carriers pay to port numbers to a neutral third party that maintains the Number Portability service. In the US, that used to be $6 per number port (which is basically just a DB row update operation) but a new vendor has reduced it by more than half. Carriers view that expense as pocket change as subscriber acquisition cost is well over $100 in total.

Without a legislative mandate and a third party integration partner that assures the port is successful, seems unlikely that a market leader like Spotify would ever allow them to exist.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Btw, I wish Spotify would expand further on Discover Weekly/Release Radar: - a builtin weekly personal archive of DW/RR - a "get me more more interesting music in this style based on other peoples recommendations" button etc.

It's not exactly what you're asking for, but a few years ago I started creating a new playlist at the start of each month, naming it " ", and I add any songs I'm enjoying that month.. Most of them come from Discover Weekly or Release Radar, but sometimes for other sources. It's an easy and interesting way to go back in time and see what I was listening to etc.. I have a "house rule" where I never remove any songs fro…

I think you just gave me a new project idea!

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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post #95

I use Tidal and I'm very satisfied, the catalog is huge, and the playlist are really well curated, plus their music suggestions are always spot on. I would suggest anyone using Spotify to switch. On the plus side, Tidal also pays musicians a four times what Spotify does (last time I checked, I can't find the link), which I think is in itself a good reason to prefer it.

I can't support Tidal's endorsement of MQA[1] - an audiophile scam and an attempt to lock music into yet another proprietary format. While they still use it, I won't sign up and I'll continue to dissuade others from doing so.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Quality_Authenticated#C...

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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post #84
post #5

This, among many questionable practices is why I don't empathize with Spotify in their fight with Apple, where Apple slowly dismantles their presence on iOS.

What other questionable practices?

Particularly, paying per song versus paying per seconds of song delivered is bullshit
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