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A 20-year-old CRT monitor can be better than a 4K LCD (2019)

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Post by stragulus »

tuxracer wrote: post #139

Please don't let CRTs come back in style. After a while they tend to develop this headache inducing high pitched tone almost akin to tinnitus that is emitted constantly while they're powered on. It seems to be so high pitched most people cannot hear it at all but if you're one of the lucky few who can it can actually be really disruptive. Unfortunately it's also often loud enough to hear through doors, walls, etc...…

You might not hear it anymore by now if you are still of a CRT generation since that tone is 16kHz and you quickly lose the ability to hear it.

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Post by WalterBright »

Matthias247 wrote: post #108
WalterBright wrote: post #98

> Taylor said in an interview that he's willing to pay up to $500. I wonder what the shipping cost of those heavy monsters are. Me, I've used CRTs for 25 years. I have zero nostalgia for them. I don't want to ever use one again. There's nothing about them I prefer.

Reminds me of a story in when I was in university in around 2005. In our usenet group some people found a sale of used fw900s (definitely for less than 500€ each). They then organized a group buy, which had around 20 interested people. Then they wondered how they would actually get all of those transferred across half the country. I think in the end they rented a truck or trailer to pick them up. It was definitely a…

I still want my desktop, which is currently a Dania dining room table, to be a display. Wouldn't that be cool, even with my coffee cup and junk sitting on it?

I also want a true wall-sized display. No, not a projected image.

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Post by sokoloff »

jyoshi wrote: post #145
tuxracer wrote: post #139

Please don't let CRTs come back in style. After a while they tend to develop this headache inducing high pitched tone almost akin to tinnitus that is emitted constantly while they're powered on. It seems to be so high pitched most people cannot hear it at all but if you're one of the lucky few who can it can actually be really disruptive. Unfortunately it's also often loud enough to hear through doors, walls, etc...…

For the longest while I used this to tell my friends in high school I had a mini-superpower. Because I knew when there was a television on in the house, and somehow none of them heard it. There is an old telly in my apartment, I turned it on to test it last week and heard the tone again, must have been like 18+ years since I last turned one of those on. It never gave me headaches but I definitely heard (and still hea…

My hearing is not even that great in some ways, but I can easily hear the old CRT whine. It blows my mind that not everyone can hear it.

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Post by rthomas6 »

imhoguy wrote: post #58
nottorp wrote: post #4

I have a different problem with LCDs. I still think they're too bright. With a CRT you could set everything to white on black and you had almost no light coming out of the screen. Also brightness meant brightness and you could turn it way down for when working in dim light or darkness. Of course i'm talking about text work here. Maybe when OLED monitors become affordable we'll go back to monitors that aren't basicall…

I am still waiting for a decent size e-ink screen (22"+) without backlight which should be enough for low-FPS stuff like backend coding, slack, terminal and text content web pages. Existing solutions are still too small - Dasung and Onyx Boox are 13.3" with HDMI.

Syntax highlighting is too important to me to use this.

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Post by werdnapk »

jyoshi wrote: post #145
tuxracer wrote: post #139

Please don't let CRTs come back in style. After a while they tend to develop this headache inducing high pitched tone almost akin to tinnitus that is emitted constantly while they're powered on. It seems to be so high pitched most people cannot hear it at all but if you're one of the lucky few who can it can actually be really disruptive. Unfortunately it's also often loud enough to hear through doors, walls, etc...…

For the longest while I used this to tell my friends in high school I had a mini-superpower. Because I knew when there was a television on in the house, and somehow none of them heard it. There is an old telly in my apartment, I turned it on to test it last week and heard the tone again, must have been like 18+ years since I last turned one of those on. It never gave me headaches but I definitely heard (and still hea…

I thought this was my superpower too as a kid. I don't really notice it anymore with all the digital equipment, but analog was noticeable.

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Post by IronWolve »

I was using my 24 inch sun monitor for a long long time when LCD's came out, wouldnt want to downgrade to a 17 or 19. Also It was running at 1920x1200, going to a 4:3 lcd with smaller display seemed wrong.

Funny, I bought first 24inch LCD, a dell, color matched, and they gave me a free pc. Put a nvidia 8800GT in and gamed for quiet a while, it came with a pentium D 820, after a few years put a 960 in it. Think I got 5+ years of gaming on it.

Still using the LCD as my 2nd monitor net to my 27 inch 1440p wide screen gsync gaming monitor.

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Post by userbinator »

nottorp wrote: post #4

I have a different problem with LCDs. I still think they're too bright. With a CRT you could set everything to white on black and you had almost no light coming out of the screen. Also brightness meant brightness and you could turn it way down for when working in dim light or darkness. Of course i'm talking about text work here. Maybe when OLED monitors become affordable we'll go back to monitors that aren't basicall…

I suspect that people leaving LCDs at their eye-burning default brightness (looks great in a store demo competing against the lighting and other monitors, but not at all for long-term work) is at least part of the reason for all the excessively low-contrast websites.

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Post by bradstewart »

nottorp wrote: post #85
ashtonkem wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d recommend adding bias lighting to your monitor. It won’t make the monitor less bright, but it’ll light up the wall behind your monitor so there’s less of a contrast between the wall and your monitor, which reduces eye strain.

I tried that but looked like too much effort. Instead, I never turn off the room lights any more when using monitors. Seems good enough since oled is coming.

LED strips stuck to the monitor itself, pointed at the wall. Powered from a USB port on the monitor if it has one.
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