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A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Keep in mind this doesn't actually "copy the files" but creates songs and playlist entries in another service, so nothing nefarious is happening. Spotify is just salty there's a service that allows to quickly find the same songs elsewhere.

Playing devil’s advocate here. But, I think it can be bad for Spotify if the user copies the playlist that’s being curated by Spotify to another streaming service. It’s good for them if they could add some friction to it by, you know—manually copy it and doesn’t let it update automatically every time they make a change to the playlist—by shutting down the API for this kind of request altogether. It’s not about “allow…

This is exactly what I use SongShift for :D

Apple's "New Music Mix" is absolute shit compared to Spotify's "Discover Weekly". Most of the stuff Spotify suggests to me are either complete bangers or listen-worthy at worst.

Apple's stuff though... It's like they don't have ANY intelligence in the system at all. I listen to 80's gangsta-rap once, then I get modern mumblerap shit for months and months.

BUT I do love how Apple Music integrates with my iOS devices and I think the sound quality is better. So I just use Songshift to sync the discovery playlists to AM (semi)automatically.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

#43

I'm happy with Spotify and tried to figure out what this story was about. I saw "SongShift Pro starting at 4.99 USD/month". Do people go for a monthly pricing for this kind of service? I mean transferring playlists from an old service to a new service sounds like a one-off thing. Does someone really need it continuously?

Both Apple Music and Spotify have a bunch of curated playlists, which are pretty good.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Playing devil’s advocate here. But, I think it can be bad for Spotify if the user copies the playlist that’s being curated by Spotify to another streaming service. It’s good for them if they could add some friction to it by, you know—manually copy it and doesn’t let it update automatically every time they make a change to the playlist—by shutting down the API for this kind of request altogether. It’s not about “allow…

This is exactly what I use SongShift for :D Apple's "New Music Mix" is absolute shit compared to Spotify's "Discover Weekly". Most of the stuff Spotify suggests to me are either complete bangers or listen-worthy at worst. Apple's stuff though... It's like they don't have ANY intelligence in the system at all. I listen to 80's gangsta-rap once, then I get modern mumblerap shit for months and months. BUT I do love how…

Btw, I wish Spotify would expand further on Discover Weekly/Release Radar:

- a builtin weekly personal archive of DW/RR

- a "get me more more interesting music in this style based on other peoples recommendations" button

etc.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Playing devil’s advocate here. But, I think it can be bad for Spotify if the user copies the playlist that’s being curated by Spotify to another streaming service. It’s good for them if they could add some friction to it by, you know—manually copy it and doesn’t let it update automatically every time they make a change to the playlist—by shutting down the API for this kind of request altogether. It’s not about “allow…

This is exactly what I use SongShift for :D Apple's "New Music Mix" is absolute shit compared to Spotify's "Discover Weekly". Most of the stuff Spotify suggests to me are either complete bangers or listen-worthy at worst. Apple's stuff though... It's like they don't have ANY intelligence in the system at all. I listen to 80's gangsta-rap once, then I get modern mumblerap shit for months and months. BUT I do love how…

Apple Music is shit. Period. I rage quit the 6 month free trial the other day after “Siri, play the US top charts” resulted in “Sure, here’s the top charts in Serbia”. I’m not in Serbia. Their discovery is crap, YouTube has better music recommendations, most EDM is missing. No value in it at all.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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For once, I'm starting to wonder if I can't just buy a music subscription somewhere else..?

I imported my playlist to spotify, it's mine, why shouldn't I be able to export it?

I hope to see a response from spotify, because I would prefer not to leave.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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I think this will push me to finally just jump to Apple Music (even though it’s worse and will now be harder to do, plus I’ll miss discover weekly). Spotify’s attack on podcasts with exclusivity and trying to destroy the open standard really bothers me: https://stratechery.com/2020/dithering-and-the-open-web/ Now with this I just don’t have much respect for them. When paired with their complaining about Apple’s polic…

Amusingly enough, I think the podcast move was a realisation that like Netflix they will need their own content to prosper in the long run when faced against goliaths like Apple, as big players will just throw money and platform advantages at their services. It doesn't help Spotify's image though.

No. It was an attempt to coop free content and profit off of it at the expense of the destruction of the ecosystem.

Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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post #4

Seems like an obvious and sane target for antitrust legislation - compare with e.g. the mobile number portability directive in the EU way back in 2002. Related opinion piece: > Data portability: An antitrust weapon for the digital economy? (Le Monde, 2018) http://www.fondapol.org/en/the-foundation/medias-en-en/data-... > In concrete terms, what would portability in the digital economy look like? Let us imagine we cou…

Also, it runs afoul of sections of GDPR. I don't agree that Spotify has to let users transfer Spotify curated playlists as that is a business strength. Songshift seems to show Spotify curated playlists on their homepage like Discover Weekly so I can see why Spotify won't like this. But if my understanding of GDPR is right they have to allow users to transfer playlists created by themselves.

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Re: A Note about Spotify Transfers

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, it runs afoul of sections of GDPR. I don't agree that Spotify has to let users transfer Spotify curated playlists as that is a business strength. Songshift seems to show Spotify curated playlists on their homepage like Discover Weekly so I can see why Spotify won't like this. But if my understanding of GDPR is right they have to allow users to transfer playlists created by themselves.

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Lol. A jingoist.
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