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DOJ – International Statement: End-to-End Encryption and Public Safety

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It's too bad none of these fascists are elected; we can't simply vote them out of office. Edit: Use your words; your downvotes just tell me that you support nepotism and corruption in bureaucracies.

They’re chosen by elected officials.

Re: DOJ – International Statement: End-to-End Encryption and Public Safety

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It's too bad none of these fascists are elected; we can't simply vote them out of office. Edit: Use your words; your downvotes just tell me that you support nepotism and corruption in bureaucracies.

They’re chosen by elected officials.

By some definition of "elected"

Re: DOJ – International Statement: End-to-End Encryption and Public Safety

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It's too bad none of these fascists are elected; we can't simply vote them out of office. Edit: Use your words; your downvotes just tell me that you support nepotism and corruption in bureaucracies.

They’re chosen by elected officials.

Please, use more words: How do we vote them out of office? How do we recall them or call for votes of no-confidence? You seem to think appointments by elected officials are themselves elections, but there's several hundred years of constitutional democratic history suggesting otherwise.

Re: DOJ – International Statement: End-to-End Encryption and Public Safety

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What are the odds that big tech and big brother are in bed creating a huge dog and pony show to counter the post-Snowden “going dark” reality?

Given: The public knows about mass surveillance. Big tech deploys supposedly unbreakable end to end encryption. The public feels more safe and protected from Big Brother yet again.

Theory: Meanwhile, behind the scenes, government and big tech have, in secret, the ability to recover such encrypted comms. The DOJ initiative would then be part of an elaborate psyop to further deceive people into believing that FB “has their back”.

I’m going to guess that third parties have extensively reverse engineered apps such as fb messenger to ensure that it is essentially impossible for the above to be the case, since E2EE occurs at the endpoints.

Can an encryption expert weigh in here?

Edit: this also raises general concerns I have about trusting an App Store to install what is supposed to be installed, and not a backdoor’ed version of an app. Something like: Let the reverse engineers have an unmodified app, while distributing alternate versions to other unsuspecting users.

Re: DOJ – International Statement: End-to-End Encryption and Public Safety

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What are the odds that big tech and big brother are in bed creating a huge dog and pony show to counter the post-Snowden “going dark” reality? Given: The public knows about mass surveillance. Big tech deploys supposedly unbreakable end to end encryption. The public feels more safe and protected from Big Brother yet again. Theory: Meanwhile, behind the scenes, government and big tech have, in secret, the ability to re…

Also, odds that the govt has secret radically advanced quantum computing tech and does have a QC to recover using Shor’s? (Yea, probably unlikely as it would takes millions of qubits to achieve this..)

How long before lattice based crypto is sufficiently vetted for wide deployment?

Re: DOJ – International Statement: End-to-End Encryption and Public Safety

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What are the odds that big tech and big brother are in bed creating a huge dog and pony show to counter the post-Snowden “going dark” reality? Given: The public knows about mass surveillance. Big tech deploys supposedly unbreakable end to end encryption. The public feels more safe and protected from Big Brother yet again. Theory: Meanwhile, behind the scenes, government and big tech have, in secret, the ability to re…

Also, odds that the govt has secret radically advanced quantum computing tech and does have a QC to recover using Shor’s? (Yea, probably unlikely as it would takes millions of qubits to achieve this..) How long before lattice based crypto is sufficiently vetted for wide deployment?

Are downvotes on both of my comments warranted? Such a theory is worth exploring, yes?

Edit: this comment was downvoted almost instantly as well.

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