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The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Post by anticristi »

bjelkeman-again wrote: post #5

The last video in the article, with the British prime minister is very good. This is going to be interesting going forward. Anyone could start denying anything they said on camera and claim deep fake. A lot of people seem to not want to really try to discern some truth in what is being said by politicians, so deep fakes as a tool could be useful even by just claiming they are used.

As a joke, it will also make films, such as the pilot of Black Mirror, pretty undramatic: "Was it really the British prime minister who had intercourse with a pig, or was it just a deep fake?" :)))

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Post by achow »

bjelkeman-again wrote: post #5

The last video in the article, with the British prime minister is very good. This is going to be interesting going forward. Anyone could start denying anything they said on camera and claim deep fake. A lot of people seem to not want to really try to discern some truth in what is being said by politicians, so deep fakes as a tool could be useful even by just claiming they are used.

Photoshop and 'morphing' did not lead to deluge of claims and counter-claims around fake pictures. Why?

Do society and human behavior adopts to new reality?

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Post by wruza »

I wait for cg chatacters to animate on a text script by using move/acting library, then it will be easy to shoot your own dynamic 3d movies by feeding a novel into the app and deepfaking the resulting cg scene. Combined with neural links, even not so good ones, that would be an entire new universe of... this term has yet to be invented. And you guys are thinking about deceitful politicians, as if they were relevant in it. The real world that these dinosaurs cling to is melting away faster than they shake their finger on camera.

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Post by 317070 »

wruza wrote: post #13

I wait for cg chatacters to animate on a text script by using move/acting library, then it will be easy to shoot your own dynamic 3d movies by feeding a novel into the app and deepfaking the resulting cg scene. Combined with neural links, even not so good ones, that would be an entire new universe of... this term has yet to be invented. And you guys are thinking about deceitful politicians, as if they were relevant i…

You could use a language model like gpt-3 for the novel part. In fact, I think that will be the first part of the pipeline that will be of sufficient quality.

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Post by timknauf »

StavrosK wrote: post #15

Good article, but I did a double take when it said "the director wanted to protect the activists so they used deep fakes to hide their faces, here's the before and after". What's the point of hiding the face if you're going to show the before?!

As I understood it, that particular activist had gone public by that point.

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Post by PeterisP »

Retr0spectrum wrote: post #8
danielheath wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you sign it with the aljazeera key in your keychain?

No? But aljazeera can sign their content with their private key. That's how signing works...

Sure, but aljazeera can sign a deepfake with their key just as readily as a real video, the signature does not ensure the realness of the video - it can only establish a part of it's "chain of sources".

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Post by LudwigNagasena »

davidhyde wrote: post #6

Why is voice audio always so hard to get right? Seems like it should be easier than video because the data rate is lower than video but computer generated audio has always been terrible.

Maybe because video is 2D, so it doesn’t seem real anyway, but audio is very close to real-life experience, so it is easier to notice the difference.

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Post by dmd »

achow wrote: post #12
bjelkeman-again wrote: post #5

The last video in the article, with the British prime minister is very good. This is going to be interesting going forward. Anyone could start denying anything they said on camera and claim deep fake. A lot of people seem to not want to really try to discern some truth in what is being said by politicians, so deep fakes as a tool could be useful even by just claiming they are used.

Photoshop and 'morphing' did not lead to deluge of claims and counter-claims around fake pictures. Why? Do society and human behavior adopts to new reality?

What? It absolutely did!

Re: The strange new world of being a deepfake actor

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Post by innocenat »

PeterisP wrote: post #17
Retr0spectrum wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No? But aljazeera can sign their content with their private key. That's how signing works...

Sure, but aljazeera can sign a deepfake with their key just as readily as a real video, the signature does not ensure the realness of the video - it can only establish a part of it's "chain of sources".

And that's the same with DRM? Unless I am missing something.
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