Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
1–10 of 281 posts
Re: Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
#2Is it not a slippery slope to wanting access to email and pretext for intercepting?
Re: Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
#3Is it not a slippery slope to wanting access to email and pretext for intercepting?
They already have access to email through subpoenas and warrants.
Re: Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
#4Is it not a slippery slope to wanting access to email and pretext for intercepting?
In the USA, email that has been stored for longer than some (fairly short) period I don't remember offhand doesn't require a warrant to access.
Just think about that for a while.
Re: Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
#5[deleted]
Re: Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
#61. How is this really different to government-mandated microphones and cameras in your house, school, workplace, etc?
2. What’s the endgame here? Open-source encrypted messaging software is widely available. The cat is out of the bag. Every country on Earth could outlaw the technology and it would still be trivially easy for criminals to use it. Do the people behind these proposals not see that?
Re: Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
#71. How is this really different to government-mandated microphones and cameras in your house, school, workplace, etc? 2. What’s the endgame here? Open-source encrypted messaging software is widely available. The cat is out of the bag. Every country on Earth could outlaw the technology and it would still be trivially easy for criminals to use it. Do the people behind these proposals not see that?
There's no need to make them mandatory, most people already have cameras and microphones in their homes, schools and workplaces that the government can access. This is more about getting access to the social graph.
Re: Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
#8Government will always be a major threat vector to the population. Encypted communication tools have the effect of creating a wider distribution of power which lessens that threat.
I think the trade-off of denying the establishment some control that would empower it to more effectively combat malevolent behavior by fringe elements, in order to better protect the majority from potential abuses and structural exploitation by the establishment, is worth it.
Re: Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
#91. How is this really different to government-mandated microphones and cameras in your house, school, workplace, etc? 2. What’s the endgame here? Open-source encrypted messaging software is widely available. The cat is out of the bag. Every country on Earth could outlaw the technology and it would still be trivially easy for criminals to use it. Do the people behind these proposals not see that?
There's no need to make them mandatory, most people already have cameras and microphones in their homes, schools and workplaces that the government can access. This is more about getting access to the social graph.
I don’t think that is accurate. Just as with end-to-end encrypted messaging apps, they would have to use targeted 0-day exploits to access the cameras and microphones in people’s homes.
End-to-end encryption doesn’t protect the social graph. They already know who is talking to who; they just don’t know what is being said.
Re: Five Eyes and Japan call for Facebook backdoor to monitor crime
#101. How is this really different to government-mandated microphones and cameras in your house, school, workplace, etc? 2. What’s the endgame here? Open-source encrypted messaging software is widely available. The cat is out of the bag. Every country on Earth could outlaw the technology and it would still be trivially easy for criminals to use it. Do the people behind these proposals not see that?
Re: 2, just because other encrypted messaging software is widely available doesn’t mean all criminals will use it. We know this because it happens today — see for example ammo and weapons seized after someone posted about killing federal officers on Discord [1], which isn’t e2e encrypted at all!
This isn’t a defense of backdoors, btw — just saying that we can still expect some criminals to use compromised messaging software even if secure alternatives are easily available.
[1] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/ammo-guns...