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Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by biomechanica »

keyth72 wrote: post #26
aeleos wrote: post #6

Just tried it out, I don't know if I would say it sounds like a $600 tube amp especially in high gain scenarios (it really didn't like my active pickups), for a free plugin it is definitely great. In comparison to the Archetype Nolly plugin from Neural DSP it doesn't really compare, but but for something thats free and can be trained at home on custom audio samples its pretty cool.

Thanks for trying it, much appreciated. Love Neural DSP's plugins, they are the best as far as I'm concerned.

Mercuriall's plugins are amazing, too. Their Spark plugin and SS-11X (can't tell the difference on that one) are so unbelievably good. If this open source one can do what Spark can do.. I dunno.. I'd shave my beard.

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by soperj »

keyth72 wrote: post #17
romwell wrote: post #8

What a clickbait title. Sounds (to whom?) like a $600 (which one?) amp using deep learning (why does it matter?). To expand on this: -$600 tube amp is not description of a sound. And a plug-in is not something you plug your guitar into to make enough noise for 300 people. "A plug-in sounds like a $600 speaker" makes almost as much sense as the title; by the sound of an amp people often mean the sound of the combo box…

Absolutely it's clickbait, I'm trying to get some visibility on my open source project. To answer the question of why it's $600 specifically, it's based on a model of a Fender Blues Jr. Tweed, msrp $600. The models are evaluated to have a 1.5% error to signal ratio, meaning it's 1.5% different from the actual recorded signal, coming from an SM57 microphone. I really do appreciate the constructive criticism, and well…

Okay, but why would you pick a Blues Jr. instead of an Original Fender Champ?

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by keyth72 »

ethanwillis wrote: post #27
keyth72 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely it's clickbait, I'm trying to get some visibility on my open source project. To answer the question of why it's $600 specifically, it's based on a model of a Fender Blues Jr. Tweed, msrp $600. The models are evaluated to have a 1.5% error to signal ratio, meaning it's 1.5% different from the actual recorded signal, coming from an SM57 microphone. I really do appreciate the constructive criticism, and well…

Yea this is the only reason you're getting some negative feedback. You should read the guidelines and interact with some submissions elsewhere to get a feel for the community. That stuff aside, good work, and I starred it on Github.

Thank you and much appreciated, will definitely do that before posting again. I probably shouldn't have internetted today.. closes computer sheepishly

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by romwell »

keyth72 wrote: post #17
romwell wrote: post #8

What a clickbait title. Sounds (to whom?) like a $600 (which one?) amp using deep learning (why does it matter?). To expand on this: -$600 tube amp is not description of a sound. And a plug-in is not something you plug your guitar into to make enough noise for 300 people. "A plug-in sounds like a $600 speaker" makes almost as much sense as the title; by the sound of an amp people often mean the sound of the combo box…

Absolutely it's clickbait, I'm trying to get some visibility on my open source project. To answer the question of why it's $600 specifically, it's based on a model of a Fender Blues Jr. Tweed, msrp $600. The models are evaluated to have a 1.5% error to signal ratio, meaning it's 1.5% different from the actual recorded signal, coming from an SM57 microphone. I really do appreciate the constructive criticism, and well…

Thanks for making this project! The world is a bit better with this project out there.

And thank you for answering the questions!

Now, putting this answers back into the Github README would make for a much better and informative project description.

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by bserge »

keyth72 wrote: post #17
romwell wrote: post #8

What a clickbait title. Sounds (to whom?) like a $600 (which one?) amp using deep learning (why does it matter?). To expand on this: -$600 tube amp is not description of a sound. And a plug-in is not something you plug your guitar into to make enough noise for 300 people. "A plug-in sounds like a $600 speaker" makes almost as much sense as the title; by the sound of an amp people often mean the sound of the combo box…

Absolutely it's clickbait, I'm trying to get some visibility on my open source project. To answer the question of why it's $600 specifically, it's based on a model of a Fender Blues Jr. Tweed, msrp $600. The models are evaluated to have a 1.5% error to signal ratio, meaning it's 1.5% different from the actual recorded signal, coming from an SM57 microphone. I really do appreciate the constructive criticism, and well…

I'd say don't even argue about marketing/ads/clickbait with the HN and Reddit crowds.

Just ignore that part, trust me, it opens up debates that go literally nowhere and leave you feeling worthless or worse. Any advertising is the devil incarnate to some people.

The title worked fwiw.

Just take the criticism related to the product itself.

Which, to me, looks very interesting, but I'm not into audio at all.

So my dumb question is, do you use this to emulate guitar sounds or can you plug in a guitar through a computer and use this plugin as an amp? D:

I'm too tired, I'll re-read the GitHub page to maybe understand it better.

Best of luck!

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by whiddershins »

keyth72 wrote: post #29
detaro wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Among others: > Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

Ah, thank you for pointing that out. So if I wanted to use the title I have, I should write an article with that title. But even then it seems I wasn't in line with the quality of posts expected for this site. Will definitely keep that in mind for future posts.

Don’t let any of this discourage you tho. This is a great contribution to the community.

This site just has a preference to more technically descriptive titles.

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by romwell »

soperj wrote: post #32
keyth72 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely it's clickbait, I'm trying to get some visibility on my open source project. To answer the question of why it's $600 specifically, it's based on a model of a Fender Blues Jr. Tweed, msrp $600. The models are evaluated to have a 1.5% error to signal ratio, meaning it's 1.5% different from the actual recorded signal, coming from an SM57 microphone. I really do appreciate the constructive criticism, and well…

Okay, but why would you pick a Blues Jr. instead of an Original Fender Champ?

Probably that's what the author had available? I mean, for a free plug-in it's not like there's a budget to go and splurge on hardware.

Looks like the point of the project is that this can be used to make their own models easily.

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by romwell »

keyth72 wrote: post #33
ethanwillis wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea this is the only reason you're getting some negative feedback. You should read the guidelines and interact with some submissions elsewhere to get a feel for the community. That stuff aside, good work, and I starred it on Github.

Thank you and much appreciated, will definitely do that before posting again. I probably shouldn't have internetted today.. closes computer sheepishly

> I probably shouldn't have internetted today..

Well, you did get the attention :)

Now that you are here, you can update the project description.

I feel like the point that this way of making a plug-in allows anyone with the hardware to easily create an emulator for it is not really coming through. That's the selling point of deep learning.

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by bserge »

marketingPro wrote: post #7
dlivingston wrote: post #3

For the guitarist interested in applying this plugin live, it would be worth looking into open-hardware Arduino-based guitar pedals [0]. [0]: https://shop.electrosmash.com/product/pedalshield-mega-kit/

I'm ready for an esp8266 revolution. Arduino is outdated and expensive. Not that my wish will be reality, both academia and the last company I worked for used ardiunos for various tasks(non production). Not sure why, is it entirely the shape of Arduino is standard and can use Arduino based shields?

Funny enough, esp8266 boards is all I can find in my country. Probably because it's cheap and versatile. I need to try it, but can't think of anything to use it for.

Re: Show HN: SmartGuitarAmp – Guitar plugin made with deep learning

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Post by keyth72 »

romwell wrote: post #30
ysw0 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's based on a Fender Blues Jr according to the vid. It sounds pretty good for a free plugin, but as you said there's tons of free VSTs and cheap solid state amps that can do better. I think it sounds good for a hobby project though!

>It's based on a Fender Blues Jr Oh, a $350 amp?[1] then? Linking a store page just to illustrate that price tags are pointless when you talk about musical instruments, and also to give people who don't know an impression of what these $$$ go for . You still need a sound system to get the sound out of a plug-in, and PA systems certainly aren't free. The cost of a comparable PA system + free plug in will easily exceed…

Ok ok, used it's $350, but mine's the Tweed version. MSRP at $600.

But yes all good points and further proves that more money does not mean better sound.

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