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Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus

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Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you point me to similar Facebook/Whatsapp groups ? Because they are usually pretty aggressive about acting on inciteful content.

How about we consider any website accessible through Safari? Is Apple going to start blocking users from viewing those?

I'll not be surprised. Apple always wants total control on their platforms. Obviously sometimes its plays against them.

Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus

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A problem hk faced as well. But to threat to shut down telegram is not the right move. You do not kill a platform.

Don't be so optimistic. Apple and Google are a duopoly to control mobile messaging (outside of China).

Not for me, I use a Linux phone (Sailfish OS) with no Google. Not for real activists (criminals in the eyes es of oppressive governments like Chaina, Belarus, Russia, Iran, Turkey, ...) who will always find their way. But for 98% of any population.

Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus

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What next? Taking down Netflix shows that show apple in a bad manner?

Are those shows likely to incite violence which may result in people being killed ? Because in Hong Kong similar channels were used to kill police. This isn't a simple question of censorship.

> This isn't a simple question of censorship.

That's why we can't let corporations decide on that

Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus

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Apple is a US company. If Belarus people want those channels, they should build their own device or get an android. I fully support apple taking action on violence and doxing rather than bending down to other country's people or apps like telegram.

If tiktok refused to take down doxing of officials in US, it would get banned.

Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus

#26
The relevant piece is this: "Apple is requesting that Telegram shut down three channels used in Belarus to expose the identities of individuals belonging to the Belarusian authoritarian regime that may be oppressing civilians"

Exposing identities of individuals is problematic. There are examples of bad things happening when these kind of messages spread through messaging apps.

Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus

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What next? Taking down Netflix shows that show apple in a bad manner?

Are those shows likely to incite violence which may result in people being killed ? Because in Hong Kong similar channels were used to kill police. This isn't a simple question of censorship.

ha , i d say some apple fanbois are borderline violent

Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus

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post #23
post #11

A problem hk faced as well. But to threat to shut down telegram is not the right move. You do not kill a platform.

Don't be so optimistic. Apple and Google are a duopoly to control mobile messaging (outside of China). Not for me, I use a Linux phone (Sailfish OS) with no Google. Not for real activists (criminals in the eyes es of oppressive governments like Chaina, Belarus, Russia, Iran, Turkey, ...) who will always find their way. But for 98% of any population.

Allowing sideloading for Android makes Google much harder to control the platform. I’d not be surprised though if sideloading would be not allowed in the future.
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