A problem hk faced as well. But to threat to shut down telegram is not the right move. You do not kill a platform.
Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus
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Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus
#12Through what right or means can Apple demand this, though? Telegram is a platform for user-generated content and it seems odd for Apple to single-out those 3 channels/groups specifically - what about the hundreds of thousands of other objectionable groups on Telegram? And why Telegram in particular? Why doesn't Apple give the same ultimatum to Facebook to pressure them to block access to militant ethnonationalist gro…
Can you point me to similar Facebook/Whatsapp groups ?
Because they are usually pretty aggressive about acting on inciteful content.
Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus
#13This is a complete double-standard. Telegram messages are user-generated content. Is Apple going to start blocking websites in the Safari app? I'm sure one could find a lot worse things than doxxing by using Safari.
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#14What next? Taking down Netflix shows that show apple in a bad manner?
Are those shows likely to incite violence which may result in people being killed ? Because in Hong Kong similar channels were used to kill police. This isn't a simple question of censorship.
What about people who ARE killed as a result of police thinking they are anonymous and they won't be prosecuted no matter what?
Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus
#15Through what right or means can Apple demand this, though? Telegram is a platform for user-generated content and it seems odd for Apple to single-out those 3 channels/groups specifically - what about the hundreds of thousands of other objectionable groups on Telegram? And why Telegram in particular? Why doesn't Apple give the same ultimatum to Facebook to pressure them to block access to militant ethnonationalist gro…
Can you point me to similar Facebook/Whatsapp groups ? Because they are usually pretty aggressive about acting on inciteful content.
How about we consider any website accessible through Safari? Is Apple going to start blocking users from viewing those?
Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus
#16What next? Taking down Netflix shows that show apple in a bad manner?
Are those shows likely to incite violence which may result in people being killed ? Because in Hong Kong similar channels were used to kill police. This isn't a simple question of censorship.
Indeed there's the nuance that it's a war of the people against an oppressive regime - and Apple is ignoring this nuance and taking sides.
Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus
#17What next? Taking down Netflix shows that show apple in a bad manner?
Are those shows likely to incite violence which may result in people being killed ? Because in Hong Kong similar channels were used to kill police. This isn't a simple question of censorship.
Being killed seems like a luxury compared to what might happen to you if one of these regimes want to arrest you.
Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus
#18Through what right or means can Apple demand this, though? Telegram is a platform for user-generated content and it seems odd for Apple to single-out those 3 channels/groups specifically - what about the hundreds of thousands of other objectionable groups on Telegram? And why Telegram in particular? Why doesn't Apple give the same ultimatum to Facebook to pressure them to block access to militant ethnonationalist gro…
Can you point me to similar Facebook/Whatsapp groups ? Because they are usually pretty aggressive about acting on inciteful content.
I doubt it. Maybe they crack down on an app or two when they feel like it but Apple aren't moving the needle on incitement.
Plus they make and sell communication apps subject to carrying the exact same sentiments. Content policing a chat app is asinine.
Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus
#19It started with Alex Jones
Re: Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in Belarus
#20https://t.me/durov/136
> Previously, when removing posts at Apple’s request, Telegram replaced those posts with a notice that cited the exact rule limiting such content for iOS users. However, Apple reached out to us a while ago and said our app is not allowed to show users such notices because they were “irrelevant”.
Fucking hell, Apple.
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