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Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by nobody9999 »

TheSionnach wrote: post #35
km3r wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any platform ought to have the right to prevent falsehoods from being spread on the platform. A platform also should have to right to choose what topic, otherwise a car forum could be overrun by motorcycle enthusiasts. As long as a platform applies its rules in a just and fair way, i see no issue with preventing lies or keeping the topic on track.

But who gets to decide what is truth and lies? If twitter was bi-partisan, sure, but the people in charge clearly have a heavily bias.

>But who gets to decide what is truth and lies? If twitter was bi-partisan, sure, but the people in charge clearly have a heavily bias.

You believe that and I respect your beliefs. I don't use Twitter, so I'm not really in a position to agree or disagree with you.

That said, so what? The shareholders of Twitter own the company. If the company is doing what the shareholders want (within the strictures of the law), then so be it.

Free speech cuts both ways. I can say just about anything I want. But Twitter or Facebook or HN, for that matter, is under no obligation to host my speech.

The only entities that are forbidden from censoring by the First Amendment are the Federal government,(and through the 14th Amendment) as well as state and local governments.

So if Twitter censors (or doesn't censor) content that you think shouldn't (or should) be censored, you are free to argue for your point of view and encourage others to do the same.

And Twitter can do the same.

Even if (and I take no position one way or another) Twitter is biased and acts upon those biases, so what? That's their right under the First Amendment.

It's messy, and it pisses people off, but there's no provision in the First Amendment that speech must be orderly or inoffensive.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by nobody9999 »

joshfraser wrote: post #9
krapp wrote: post #4

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No one is making Twitter an arbiter of truth. If you don't like the way Twitter does business, there are other platforms that will cater to your alternative truth needs.

I'm not seeking alternative truth. Everyone cheers for Twitter because they think they are going to censor people in a way they agree with. But what about the day that changes? What about the day they decide to censor you instead? On one hand, I agree that businesses should be free to operate as they like & you can vote with your feet if you don't like the rules. However, we also have to be realistic about the fact t…

>Opting out isn't a very practical solution.

It works for me.

I don't use Twitter (or Facebook for that matter) and I don't lose anything by not doing so.

and so, why do you believe that? I'm not being combative or snarky here. I honestly don't understand why not using Twitter isn't "practical."

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by [deleted] »

mynameishere wrote: post #300
russellbeattie wrote: post #276

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Stop that apologist crap. I grew up in a rural area and I know these people quite well. People in rural areas reject science, general knowledge and social norms of the "big cities" because they are frightened and ignorant, not because of some equally valid world view. Their response to climate science is stubborn ignorance. Their response to different cultures, races and religion is bigotry. Their response to democra…

Rural people are happy to have iPhones, as long as they don't need to understand the science behind the technology, Said the guy who probably doesn't even know how to thresh his own soybeans.

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Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by endogui »

leot wrote: post #80

When will Twitter provide all users with the ability to easily verify their identity? One of its biggest issues is troll armies — this would quickly vanish if we could filter by whether someone had validated who they were and where they were located. If Bumble can do it, Twitter can.

> If Bumble can do it, Twitter can.

If US banks and credit card agencies can't do it properly, why can Twitter?

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by nextaccountic »

will_pseudonym wrote: post #265
Lammy wrote: post #240

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Try adding some of these to your account-wide “Muted words” list: suggest_recap suggest_who_to_follow suggest_activity suggest_activity_tweet suggest_recycled_tweet_inline suggest_recycled_tweet suggest_grouped_tweet_hashtag suggest_sc_tweet suggest_pyle_tweet suggest_ranked_timeline_tweet suggest_ranked_organic_tweet generic_activity_highlights generic_activity_momentsbreaking ActivityTweet RankedOrganicTweet

Any remedy for "Follow Topic" spam from Twitter? It is so frustrating to have a company ruin a product you were previously so happy with.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/block-twitter...

Features

This extension may:

Hide promoted contents (enabled by default)

Hide suggestion tweets on timeline (e.g. Someone liked tweet)

Hide modules on timeline (e.g. Who Follow)

Hide cards in trends

Always show Latest Tweets instead of top Tweets

Only Hiding promoted contents is enabled by default. You may enable / disable these features in the options page of this extension.

This extension only supports the new Twitter UI.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by bleepblorp »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #307
bleepblorp wrote: post #196

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A lot of people--authors, technologists, public intellectuals, and others in what was the broad spectrum of 'nerd culture' at the time--saw this crap coming decades ago but lost the fight to stop it. The writing has been on the wall about the dangers of social media for a very long time. It's just taken this long for people with the power to even consider doing anything about the dangers to start taking it seriously.

Do you have any recommended reading on this topic?

I'm speaking from remembering things I read over the past few decades on Usenet (yes, that far back) and on blogs. I'd be amazed if any of this is still online.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by kehlenbrink6 »

mynameishere wrote: post #300
russellbeattie wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop that apologist crap. I grew up in a rural area and I know these people quite well. People in rural areas reject science, general knowledge and social norms of the "big cities" because they are frightened and ignorant, not because of some equally valid world view. Their response to climate science is stubborn ignorance. Their response to different cultures, races and religion is bigotry. Their response to democra…

Rural people are happy to have iPhones, as long as they don't need to understand the science behind the technology, Said the guy who probably doesn't even know how to thresh his own soybeans.

hey im new im a hacker but a good one not a bad one i help people with other hackers stuff like that

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by kehlenbrink6 »

mynameishere wrote: post #300
russellbeattie wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop that apologist crap. I grew up in a rural area and I know these people quite well. People in rural areas reject science, general knowledge and social norms of the "big cities" because they are frightened and ignorant, not because of some equally valid world view. Their response to climate science is stubborn ignorance. Their response to different cultures, races and religion is bigotry. Their response to democra…

Rural people are happy to have iPhones, as long as they don't need to understand the science behind the technology, Said the guy who probably doesn't even know how to thresh his own soybeans.

if you want to talk to me by sms do this in your linux terminal:bash --login wall ctrl+d

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

tpmx wrote: post #225
konjin wrote: post #219

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Those thoughts aren't welcome on HN any more.

As a European looking at this spectacle from a distance: SV is eating itself. Well, good for Europe, I guess. Edit: but also good for China, and they're a lot better positioned to take advantage of this.

How on earth does anything in the current discussion point to "SV eating itself"?

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Post by catears »

Covzire wrote: post #86
staplers wrote: post #77

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You could simply google "twitter bots state level actors" and find plenty of reading.

There is plenty about the earth being flat too, doesn't prove anything.

But if you google "twitter bots state level actor" the first three links are two government sites and one is nature.com (as in the big journal Nature).

I can give lots of examples of googling that gets you to conspiracy sites, but I am not sure how those examples would prove anything...

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