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A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Yeah it's weird so few took it up given how low median tenure in tech tends to be.

> Why did you leave Coinbase? > I want to engage with politics at work.

> Why did you leave Coinbase?

> They didn't align with my ethical framework.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Alternatively, if you see a resume with Coinbase through 2020-2021, that person probably prefers the opposite, which may also be seen in a positive or negative light, depending on your stance.

It signals that a person did not want to be politically active at their workplace enough to lose/quit their job. I think that says nothing of a persons political views and is just self-preservation or even indifference. Hiring would have to make some very tenuous assumptions to consider that a signal.

> I think that says nothing of a persons political views

Rubbish - we all know what type of political activism is tearing these companies apart and we all know what political views are the only ones that can be safely expressed.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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It’s unfortunate that CEOs / Founders think it’s appropriate to dictate the culture of the organization vs. learning to nurture the emergent values from within the team. It’s a sign of limited leadership capacity to attempt to install culture as a top down mandate.

Literally the job of executives is to define mission, vision, and the cultural approach to pursue that mission. Emergent mission, vision, and culture is a recipe for bankruptcy.

Depends on the organization and the type of leaders within it.

At the higher levels of organizational leadership, it’s exactly emergent mission, vision and culture.

This is why Tony From Zappos gives away Dave Logan’s book on Tribal Leadership for free.

Stage 3 leaders try to tell everyone in the company what the culture is; Stage 4 leaders create a culture based on actual shared values (not something from a mission statement or poster on the wall or offsite activity).

Most cultures are still at stage 3, but the greatest ones are stage 4+.

I’ve seen this in my work over the past 20 years working with founders from some of the most successful companies (as a personal coach and advisor).

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Funny, I don't see anyone complaining that Fruit Gushers hasn't taken a stand on child pornography? I will disagree somewhat with the people who say that companies never have a place for political stuff. If you are any company involved in South Africa during apartheid you should choose a side on apartheid and voice that position. If BLM means just the simple definition of what the words imply (that black lives matter…

> Funny, I don't see anyone complaining that Fruit Gushers hasn't taken a stand on child pornography? Child pornography, from what I can tell, is not a controversial issue. Most companies haven't made statements about their views on murder, theft, and slavery either. But if the nation were prominently split over whether murder, theft, slavery, or child pornography are good things, I would hope some companies would ma…

The nation isn't prominently split over whether racism is bad or whether black lives matter.

It is, however, prominently split over whether the specific, contentious version of "anti-racism" though promulgated by the likes of Ibram Kendi and Robin DiAngelo - "Critical Race Theory", to call it by its academic name - is the One True Anti-Racism that it claims to be, or whether it's counterproductive, divisive, anti-liberal and on track to set race relations back by decades.

Companies have as much moral obligation to state support for CRT as they do to state their support for Trotskyism or Randian Objectivism.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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That's the difference. For a lot of Californian tech companies, the whole company meetings revolve less around strategy and mission and more about racial inequality and Trump. As an outsider, I can't understand how strong the bubble is and how lacking in context these people are.

This seems a little farfetched, no?

Well, I do work for one, and yes, last time I participated in an all company call the majority of the time the management spent talking about racial equality, completely unrelated to our business?

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Context matters. When you say to someone, for example, that you're going to do X unless they object, and they stand silent, then their silence is, in that instance, interpreted as explicit consent for you to do X in many legal circumstances. A good example recently from current events was the US president being asked in a press conference to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, "win, lose, or draw". He responded w…

Of course context matters, but you're still conflating or redefining words here. Each of your examples is an example of implicit agreement, not explicit, because of the context provided. That's what context does ... it allows you to make an inference about how people are feeling or thinking about a certain topic when they don't explicitly say so. Your inference may be right, but it may also be wrong. If in your paren…

"Choosing to be nonpolitical" is an explicit statement of non-support for things like BLM.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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I wanted to find an example for my response to this article, and I can't. I was looking for the sites like GitHub, Go Docs, Cloudflare, Hashicorp, and others what splashed a "#BlackLivesMatter" header on across all their sites. I remember a lot of places slapping banners or changing their headers black in support of the movement, and now I can't find any examples of that happening. They all seem to have been removed…

It was largely a fashion trend among executives as well as a fear of being singled out as being not onboard with BLM. It's better to be with the crowd, at least you are immune to specific criticism. We saw a similar fashion trend in company cancellations of Facebook ads, multiple companies cancelled their ads for a short duration at the same time (each cancellation catalyzing the next) and we've heard nothing about t…

It's Havel's Greengrocer all over again: https://pathtothepossible.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/havels-gr...

If a corporation posted a black square on its Instagram earlier this year, that doesn't tell you anything about whether the corporation cares about racism. It only tells you that the corporation cares about its own self-preservation.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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>"silence is violence" To me this might be the best example of a 'meme', in Dawkins' sense of the word, that I'm aware of. - It's short - It rhymes - It gives new territory to a powerful word - It creates an in-group signal - It's self-amplifying, and most importantly - It's ridiculous It's absolutely destined to go far beyond it's own merit by outcompeting everything in its domain on 3+ metrics. It also helped me un…

> - It creates an in-group signal > - It's ridiculous Note that a working ingroup signal needs to be costly. Something that sounds idiotic to the outgroup means people can't just casually say it, and it creates clear divisions.

Somehow I felt this but didn't really think about it until reading your comment...totally agree.

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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Don't newspapers report on masks? Are they political as well? Doesn't TV? Why is all the politics revolving around these west coast tech companies? Could it be that it's actually not that political, it's just that these companies are filled by extremely left wing west coast people who want to make it political?

Of course newspapers are political. I don't understand how this is even a point you're confused about, unless you believe in a truly extreme form of cultural relativism. You obviously have an axe to grind against a particular political spectrum, so I will pose a more direct example that does not involve it. Is Russia Today political? Is choosing to display it prominently in a search result political? Is choosing to d…

You didn't actually consider the fact that I might have an axe to grind towards everyone who makes the workplace political, and toxic by alienating people with minority view points?

Would you consider it possible I'm a liberal myself? And that my liberalismi is exactly the reason it's difficult for me to accept this sort of behavior?

Re: A follow up to Coinbase being a mission focused company

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It’s a bummer that Coinbase’s ploy to intentionally conflate not supporting the Black Lives Matter movement (that is, a clear implicit endorsement of the status quo) with generalized left/right-political-activism-at-work seems to have worked, at least for a lot of people who aren’t paying attention. This isn’t about office politics, or political activism at work. This is about Coinbase making an explicit vote for the…

What if I don’t like the status quo, and I also don’t like the solution offered by Black Lives Matter?

Then you are free to continue believing that black lives don't matter, as is everyone else who shares those views.

Given enough time, your being incorrect on the topic will only harm yourself, not others.

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