Not necessarily related, but I’m subscriptioned and incremental-purchased out. Any time I see “In-App purchase”, I immediately skip the app.
ProtonMail CEO calls Apple's forced in-app purchases 'Mafia extortion'
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#22I read the article, but I'm still stuck on why Apple is asking for IAP to be included. Is the argument: "Hey, your app works with subscription services. You need to give Apple users the option to purchase via the App Store."
If so, why doesn't Fastmail (from what I can tell) offer IAP? Isn't this the same idea?
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#23I hope they will complain about this with the EU. Maybe the EU can stop this nonsense.
[1] might bolster their chances
> former Apple executive says the Cupertino tech giant uses its "arbitrary" App Store policies "as a weapon" to restrict competition.
[1] https://www.techspot.com/news/87038-former-app-store-exec-te...
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#24How can one be forced to include in app purchases? This seems worded strangely. Maybe I missed the paragraph explaining how Apple did this.
Quite simple: You are not allowed to push any further updates until you either 1) allow the subscription to be purchased through Apple or 2) make your service completely free so no IAP is required. Apple has been rejecting app updates for lesser reasons.
In addition, Apple doesn't want the app to lay out the fact that the extra customer will pay is an Apple tax, and ban the app because the app show "unnecessary information" to Apple customer.
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#25Re: ProtonMail CEO calls Apple's forced in-app purchases 'Mafia extortion'
#26Another thread where people will fly to defend Apple and explain how it's circumstances are similar to PS and Xbox and no one is coming after Sony, yet everyone conveniently decides not to compare Apple to early 2000s Microsoft which is basically a mirror situation. I guess people "expect" stuff like this from Apple which is the reason we are not allowed to criticize them, yet if Microsoft came out and said Steam bre…
The big difference is Apple products are quite literally beloved.
It must feel quite strange to be asked to adjudicate over such complaints when you yourself actually love the products of the company you're supposed to make a ruling on.
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#27Google/Apple should drop the percentage. 30% is too high.
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#28It's the price we all pay for ignoring user experience.
This goes way back. Take this from the old jargon file:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/P/point-and-drool-inter...
From the earliest days of computing, hacker types have regarded ease of use and simplicity as indicative of stupidity and as a "dumbing down" of computing. This mentality survives to this day in the fetish that so many have for complexity and the fact that UI/UX is often the last thing to get attention in designs led by programmers.
Apple meanwhile took the opposite stance. Computers should be easy to use. Complexity is bad, especially at the UI level. Things should "just work."
Calling bullshit on the sentiment in that Jargon file entry above made Apple for a time the most valuable company on Earth.
The tax we now have to pay to them is a dumb tax for the cult of complexity and "real men do it manually" bullshit. To break the App Store and Apple semi-monopoly, start not by criticizing but by asking why it is so successful. Only by answering that question will any challenger including FOSS be able to successfully compete with it.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then you should feel robbed when $2.40 of that goes to an unrelated company.
It's not like I want to build my own smartphone ecosystem or an encrypted email service. So I pay and get on with my life. No one forces me to do this.
No one forces you to shitpost with a throwaway either, yet here we are...
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#30They knew about the cut before writing their iOS app. Edit: I was wrong; misread.
But nothing said they had to include in-app purchase in their app; then suddenly, after being in the store 2 years already, Apple said they had to (and hence Apple would get a cut).