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Is it worse than letting them open and spread a deadly disease?
It's not particularly deadly to the vast majority of people.
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you were not in NYC in march, were you? Lots of people just refused to go to work, or do outside things when the death toll started climbing in Italy, to the point it was all over the news. Everyone knew it was a matter of time when it would hit NYC, and when it did, we were blind as there was no testing available to people unless you ended up in the ICU. My soccer team just forfeited their mach, as team members did…
That was six months ago. As far as I’m concerned, the leadership in NYC has been completely ineffective and incompetent. The rest of the world is basically moving past the virus, while New York is considering even more restrictions.
What Europe are you talking about? There are still restrictions in the EU for traveling from outside-EU countries. This is not a usa, or nyc only phenomenon.
I hate to say it, but you sound like a Trump troll.
Madrid locks back down as European leaders sound alarm on Covid-19 surges Madrid is going back under city-wide lockdown measures after a surge in coronavirus cases in the Spanish capital, in a dramatic move that ... 6 days ago https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/europe/madrid-lockdown-corona...
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Why didn't the landlord offer this "2 years no rent" deal to the existing "favorite coffee places"? I'm not sure replacing established successful businesses with new ones is a fair trade...
I have no clue why not, but a similiar thing has happened in the rental market. Lots of landlords keeping the rates of apt. the same, and forcing people to move out. Then, they find out they can't rent at those prices, they still are hesitant to drop prices and just offer 3-4 months of 'free rent' instead. Many, eventually do capitulate, but this seems to take months or even more (for some, their building contracts h…
Kill both Prop 13 (entirely, not just sections of it) and rent control and you might see some normalcy return to the California property and rental market.
The state of the US economy, and society, is so incredibly frightening to me because we seem to no longer have a collective, shared experience and goals. On one hand, people like me in the tech industry are doing fine, or better than fine. My job is secure and my skills are in high demand. On the other hand, I have friends who are highly skilled artists (musicians and dancers) who are going through the worst depressi…
And yet when I suggest that we re-open spaces for the young and healthy, and let the old and infirm decide to quarantine for themselves, I'm called inhumane and callous. The elite of this country have decided this is the sacrifice we will make - sorry for your friends, hopefully they get jobs in a warehouse or manage to get on the government dole.
That said, my (relatively young) friends are classically trained musicians and ballet dancers. They are still screwed if their audience, which skews older, can't attend. This dynamic exists in lots of places, e.g. keeping kids home from school is extremely detrimental to their development, but what do you do for elderly teachers and professors?
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That was six months ago. As far as I’m concerned, the leadership in NYC has been completely ineffective and incompetent. The rest of the world is basically moving past the virus, while New York is considering even more restrictions.
Huh? just last week both Italy and Spain re-instated restrictions, as the cases are flaring up again. Especially, in Madrid. What Europe are you talking about? There are still restrictions in the EU for traveling from outside-EU countries. This is not a usa, or nyc only phenomenon. I hate to say it, but you sound like a Trump troll. Madrid locks back down as European leaders sound alarm on Covid-19 surges Madrid is g…
This sort of comment doesn’t belong here.
The point is that Europe has mostly been normal for months now. NYC hasn’t.
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And yet when I suggest that we re-open spaces for the young and healthy, and let the old and infirm decide to quarantine for themselves, I'm called inhumane and callous. The elite of this country have decided this is the sacrifice we will make - sorry for your friends, hopefully they get jobs in a warehouse or manage to get on the government dole.
I don't necessarily disagree with the premise that isolation (and support for those in that isolation) should be directed at those at greater risk, especially when Covid has such a divergent risk profile based on age and other factors. That said, my (relatively young) friends are classically trained musicians and ballet dancers. They are still screwed if their audience, which skews older, can't attend. This dynamic e…
I don't see why we need to destroy everyone's lives for a minority of high risk people. Let everyone make their own decisions rather than use the iron fist of government to decide for us.
The state of the US economy, and society, is so incredibly frightening to me because we seem to no longer have a collective, shared experience and goals. On one hand, people like me in the tech industry are doing fine, or better than fine. My job is secure and my skills are in high demand. On the other hand, I have friends who are highly skilled artists (musicians and dancers) who are going through the worst depressi…
> The state of the US economy, and society, is so incredibly frightening to me because we seem to no longer have a collective, shared experience and goals. When has this ever been true?
I think people's memories are a bit short regarding just how dire things were in NYC back in April. I think things are a bit more complicated than just blaming the governor for shutting down restaurants. Every resident in or around New York heard ambulances 24/7. Everyone knew someone that got very sick (not that anyone could even prove that they had it since testing was extremely scarce). The virus was still very ne…
I think this is key. For people trying to blame the governor of New York, just look across the political spectrum to Texas. I am not a fan of Greg Abbott in any sense, but I will give credit where credit is due, and I think his Covid policies have been very reasonable and based in science and data. And even with those looser restrictions, restaurants in major Texas cities have still been hit incredibly hard. Downtown Austin is still pretty ghost-town like, and all the businesses that cater to those downtown office workers and tourists have been devastated despite there being relatively few official restrictions left on offices.
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We may have to aim for virus extinction. Simply flattening the curve means we are aiming for herd immunity, but there are worrying signs that immunity may only last a few months, making it possible to recirculate. The science isn't settled, but I think until we know more we should be more conservative. https://bgr.com/2020/08/11/coronavirus-immunity-common-cold-...
This virus cannot be eradicated. You'd have to force everyone on the planet to isolate for 2 weeks. Simply impossible.
At what point will people realize that the lockdown causes more harm than the virus?
Yeah, I don't think this has anything to do with a 'lockdown' but rather general desire not to get what appears to be a very bad flu. We don't have any 'lockdown' where I live, but there is a lot of news about cases rising and so people are wearing masks and curtailing gatherings. The best thing for the economy would be a trusted vaccine and/or case counts going down.
Disagree. I think the best thing would be better therapeutics. If you get rid of the death sentence (or make it extremely unlikely) that will be enough for people to resume almost all activities.