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Nokia-Microsoft Deal Gets Signed
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Re: Nokia-Microsoft Deal Gets Signed
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
It has been suggested that Elop was installed at Nokia specifically to act in Microsoft's best interest. Indeed, his actions make sense when so viewed. Interestingly, this may be his specialty: check out his movements preceding the sale of Macromedia to Adobe.
Can you unpack 'was installed'? Microsoft doesn't have the ability to appoint Nokia's CEO.
Of course they wouldn't have the ability to appoint at will, but they certainly could install opportunistically. You start by spotting someone who manages their career in a way that indicates useful skills and mindset:
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2008/01/11/microsoft-beware-steph...
...then you make them a high-valued member of your senior leadership team...
http://www.crunchbase.com/person/stephen-elop
...then when opportunity strikes and Nokia tries to buy him away you set up an under-the-table quid-pro-quo deal that would, one presumes, dwarf the $6m signing bonus Nokia gave him:
http://siliconangle.com/blog/2011/03/11/stephen-elop-of-noki...
Sure, it's just conjecture, but it's not implausible.
Re: Nokia-Microsoft Deal Gets Signed
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you unpack 'was installed'? Microsoft doesn't have the ability to appoint Nokia's CEO.
Of course they wouldn't have the ability to appoint at will, but they certainly could install opportunistically. You start by spotting someone who manages their career in a way that indicates useful skills and mindset: http://www.siliconbeat.com/2008/01/11/microsoft-beware-steph... ...then you make them a high-valued member of your senior leadership team... http://www.crunchbase.com/person/stephen-elop ...then when o…
You haven't answered my question at all. I'm asking how MSFT can "install" someone at Nokia. All you've said is that Elop was a good employee who got promoted, and then Nokia came and tried to hire him. That's not MSFT "installing" anyone.
The far simpler explanation is that if Elop is going to make a big bet with Nokia, he feels safer doing it with MSFT (who need Nokia, and where he knows people) than Google (who don't, and where he doesn't).
Re: Nokia-Microsoft Deal Gets Signed
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course they wouldn't have the ability to appoint at will, but they certainly could install opportunistically. You start by spotting someone who manages their career in a way that indicates useful skills and mindset: http://www.siliconbeat.com/2008/01/11/microsoft-beware-steph... ...then you make them a high-valued member of your senior leadership team... http://www.crunchbase.com/person/stephen-elop ...then when o…
You haven't answered my question at all . I'm asking how MSFT can "install" someone at Nokia. All you've said is that Elop was a good employee who got promoted, and then Nokia came and tried to hire him. That's not MSFT "installing" anyone. The far simpler explanation is that if Elop is going to make a big bet with Nokia, he feels safer doing it with MSFT (who need Nokia, and where he knows people) than Google (who d…
I'm sorry. The only question that I see is to unpack "install", which I take as a figurative expression meaning to analyze something into its component elements. I broke down everything that I meant to imply by the word, so you'll have to ask a different question.
Edit to reply below: your probability analysis ignores Elop's improbable behavior as described by hollerith above. And, again, this is not my explanation (this conjecture was all over threads discussing the deal the day it was announced). I'm not even saying that I buy into it, although I do have to acknowledge that people involved with deals in the billions of dollars are seldom strangers to opportunism.
Re: Nokia-Microsoft Deal Gets Signed
#15Let me see if I have this right: the CEO of Nokia very publicly declares that he is going to bet the company on WP7 weeks before finalizing a deal for WP7. Didn't the very public declaration, which IIRC caused resignations by engineers working on Symbian and Meego, radically weaken Nokia's negotiating position? I must be missing something because it is unlikely that the leadership of a major corporation would be that…
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Re: Nokia-Microsoft Deal Gets Signed
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
You haven't answered my question at all . I'm asking how MSFT can "install" someone at Nokia. All you've said is that Elop was a good employee who got promoted, and then Nokia came and tried to hire him. That's not MSFT "installing" anyone. The far simpler explanation is that if Elop is going to make a big bet with Nokia, he feels safer doing it with MSFT (who need Nokia, and where he knows people) than Google (who d…
I'm sorry. The only question that I see is to unpack "install", which I take as a figurative expression meaning to analyze something into its component elements. I broke down everything that I meant to imply by the word, so you'll have to ask a different question. Edit to reply below: your probability analysis ignores Elop's improbable behavior as described by hollerith above. And, again, this is not my explanation (…
You didn't break it down, though. Your explanation still contains the word 'install', imbued with the same probability distribution of implications as before.
Re: Nokia-Microsoft Deal Gets Signed
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
You haven't answered my question at all . I'm asking how MSFT can "install" someone at Nokia. All you've said is that Elop was a good employee who got promoted, and then Nokia came and tried to hire him. That's not MSFT "installing" anyone. The far simpler explanation is that if Elop is going to make a big bet with Nokia, he feels safer doing it with MSFT (who need Nokia, and where he knows people) than Google (who d…
I'm sorry. The only question that I see is to unpack "install", which I take as a figurative expression meaning to analyze something into its component elements. I broke down everything that I meant to imply by the word, so you'll have to ask a different question. Edit to reply below: your probability analysis ignores Elop's improbable behavior as described by hollerith above. And, again, this is not my explanation (…
I think a more likely explanation is that the causality is in the other direction: the Nokia board was already leaning toward making a deal with Microsoft before they hired Elop, and he was hired with that in mind.
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#18This deal sounds very similar to MS-Yahoo deal. Abandon your existing technology, rely on competitors tech and expect growth.
We have seen how MS-Yahoo deal played out this week. It won't be long before Nokia realized what they got into. By then, it'll be too late.
Re: Nokia-Microsoft Deal Gets Signed
#19Note, other MS partner deals that work oh so well: MS-Yahoo..the current revenue numbers indicate that with MS's help Yahoo will reach a floor of below $200 million within one year from now from a high of several yeas back of $500 million. How many restarts for winCE now? Is it not he 5th code base restart? Gee Nokia should be right at home than :)
>How many restarts for winCE now? Is it not he 5th code base restart?
Reference?
Re: Nokia-Microsoft Deal Gets Signed
#20Note, other MS partner deals that work oh so well: MS-Yahoo..the current revenue numbers indicate that with MS's help Yahoo will reach a floor of below $200 million within one year from now from a high of several yeas back of $500 million. How many restarts for winCE now? Is it not he 5th code base restart? Gee Nokia should be right at home than :)
>How many restarts for winCE now? Is it not he 5th code base restart? Reference?
As far as I know, there hasn't ever been a code base restart for Windows CE (the kernel and infrastructure components). The Pocket PC/Windows Mobile/Windows Phone interface/app platform layer above it has been restarted a couple times, hence the name changes.